[MOD]Nusantara TW! Daiviet will shine here

Yê mình vote đã thành công!!!
Đại Việt symbol bên đó tưởng có rồi mà

 

Twilight of the Dragon thì phải có Dragon để giết chứ nhỉ.

 

Twilight là hoàng hôn mà bác -> Dragon là nhà Lê -> nhà Lê suy tàn

 

rồi mấy cái hình sự kiện khi chơi game, mấy ông có thay ko?

nếu thay thì tôi ý kiến là dùng tranh Đông Hồ.

 

chơi Đại việt có chế độ tổng động viên như du mục ko ta

 

0 xứ văn minh thì làm sao mà thành horde đc. Vả lại tới 4 fact DV thì AI nó oánh=răng

 

mà mình có làm được kinh đo mới train được cấm quân ko?

 

Cái đấy phải tùy xem bọn mod nó làm như thế nào chứ
Có thể sẽ làm cấm quân ở mấy chỗ có hidden resource

 

ê mà nusantara có các mission như rome ko,có để làm cho vui,kiếm tiền,
hỏi thêm tí mod ngang giai đoạn nào rồi

 

sao lâu nay ko ai thăm hỏi gì topic này thế,còn việc gì ko cho em làm với

 

Đồng chí lớp phó lên trang này thảo luận đi, Nusantara bây giờ di cư ra đấy rồi :
http://aseantotalwar.forumotion.com/

 

forum này sao toàn tiếng anh vậy,đăng kí sao

 

Thì thảo luận = Tiếng Anh của mà bác
Bác ngại TA thì làm descr Tiếng Việt cho đám này vậy

I. Quan Danh Thue (Mercenary)

1. Nung Lao (Nung Javelineer): Highlanders mercenary armed with round wooden shield, bamboo javelin, sickle (rựa), no armors
Primary Weapon: javelin .
Secondary Weapon: sickle (rựa)
Primary Armor: none
Additional Armor: Round wooden shield

2. Ki No Nung (Nung Mounted Crossbowmen): Highlanders mercenary cavalry armed with, round wooden shield, crossbow, sickle ( rựa), no armors
Primary Weapon: crossbow .
Secondary Weapon: sickle (rựa)
Primary Armor: Wood mirror ( hộ tâm bằng gỗ)
Additional Armor: Round wooden shield


II. Dan Quan (militia and semi-regular)

1. Dan Binh (Viet's Militia): Peasant armed with bamboo spear, stones, no armors
Primary Weapon: bamboo spear.
Secondary Weapon: stones
Primary Armor: none
Additional Armor: none

2. Quan Du Kich (Guerrilla Fighters): Peasant Crossbowmen, no armors, armed with crossbow, small rattan shield and sickle (rua). Perfect hiding skill.
Primary Weapon: crossbow.
Secondary Weapon: sickle (rua)
Primary Armor: none
Additional Armor: small round wood shield


III. Quan Ngoai (literally: Outside troop but the meaning is regular troop)

1. Linh Giao (Regulars Spearman) infantry arms with spear, large wooden oval shield and bamboo javelin. Wear paper armor and leather hat (Tu Phuong Binh hat)
Primary Weapon: spear.
Secondary Weapon: javelin
Primary Armor: paper armor
Additional Armor: wooden shield

2. Quan Cau Liem (Viet's Billman) infantry arms with Viet's traditional billhook (cau liem). Very effect again cavalry and can act as assault infantry. Wear paper armor, plus wood mirror outside and leather hat (Tu Phuong Binh hat)
Primary Weapon: Cau Liem (billhook).
Secondary Weapon: none
Primary Armor: paper armor plus wood mirror outside
Additional Armor: none

3. Quan Giao Dai (Daiviet Pikemen) Armed with long pikes and curved sword. Wear paper armor, plus wood mirror outside and helmet (traditional Viet's helmet Non Dau Mau)
Primary Weapon: long pike (can form spearwall)
Secondary Weapon: sword
Primary Armor: paper armor plus wood mirror outside
Additional Armor: none

4. Cung Thu (Archers) hybrid light archer armed with composite bamboo bow and large knives round wooden shield, leather hat (Tu Phuong Binh hat).
Primary Weapon: bow
Secondary Weapon: short blade
Primary Armor: none
Additional Armor: small round wooden shield

5. Lien Chau No Thu (Viet's Crossbowmen) hybrid light crossbowmen armed with crossbow and large knives leather hat (Tu Phuong Binh hat).
Primary Weapon: crossbow
Secondary Weapon: short blade
Primary Armor: none
Additional Armor: none

6. Linh Hoa Ho (Hoa Ho flame thrower) High quality infantry arms with Hoa Ho the bamboo barrel which using dynamites to fired metal (like shotguns), can burn enemy, curved sword, round wooden shield on the back. Wear helmet
Primary Weapon: Hoa ho flame thrower.
Secondary Weapon: sword
Primary Armor: paper armor
Additional Armor: wood shield

7. Linh Hoa Mai (Viet's arquebusiers) regular arquebusiers armed with arquebus (matchlock gun) and curved sword, round shield on the back. Wear paper armor and leather hat Laughing.
Primary Weapon: Arquebusiers.
Secondary Weapon: sword
Primary Armor: steel lamellar armor
Additional Armor: none

8. Khinh Kị (Light Cavalry) Light horsemen arms with cau liem the Viet's traditional billhook and large knife, wear paper armor plus bronze mirror-shape breastplates outside.
Primary Weapon: Cau Liem.
Secondary Weapon: large knife
Primary Armor: paper armor plus bronze mirror-shape breastplates
Additional Armor: none

9. Voi Chien (War Elephants) War Elephants. Riders wear steel lamellar armor and arms with crossbow
Primary Weapon: crossbow.
Secondary Weapon: none
Primary Armor: none
Additional Armor: none


IV Quan Trong (Inside troop or Imperials Guards): All units below are branches of Daiviet Imperial Guards

1. Cam Quan (Imperial Guards) elite infantry arms with both spear and sword, long pentagon wooden shield reinforced by steel . Wear steel lamellar armor and helmet (traditional Viet's helmet)
Primary Weapon: spear.
Secondary Weapon: sword
Primary Armor: steel lamellar armor
Additional Armor: reinforced pentagon shield

2. Hoa Cau Quan (Guard Grenadier) elite infantry armed with Hoa Cau (literally Fire Grenade) and sword. Wear steel lamellar armor and helmet (traditional Viet's helmet)
Primary Weapon: grenade.
Secondary Weapon: sword
Primary Armor: steel lamellar armor
Additional Armor: none

3. Quan Can Ve (Viet's Guard Arquesbusier) Elite infantry armed with musket (arquesbus) and sword. Wear steel lamellar armor and helmet (traditional Viet's helmet)
Primary Weapon: musket (arquesbus).
Secondary Weapon: sword
Primary Armor: steel lamellar armor
Additional Armor: none

4. Thiet Ki (Armored Cavalry) elite horse archer arms with bow and curved swords, Reinforced round shield. Wear steel lamellar armor (Vietnamese's Kim Cuong Giap armor) and helmet (traditional Viet's helmet)
Primary Weapon: bow.
Secondary Weapon: sword
Primary Armor: steel lamellar armor
Additional Armor: reinforced round shield

5. Voi Phao (Elephants Artillery) War Elephants with small cannon on the back (Not sure Vietnamese learned from Timurid or Timurid learned from Vietnamese:lol: Laughing Laughing!) Rider just like their war elephants's riders counter part
Primary Weapon: cannon.
Secondary Weapon: none
Primary Armor: none
Additional Armor: none

V Siege weapon

1. Lien No (Repeated Crossbow) Siege, anti personnel and anti-tank...ugh sorry anti elephant weapon Razz . This thing can fire...10 big arrow/time. Crew have round rattan shield, large knives and leather hat (Tu Phuong Binh hat)

2. Sung Than Cong (Cannon) Siege weapon. Primary cannon (Demi cannon i think). Crew have round rattan shield, large knives and leather hat (Tu Phuong Binh hat)

3. Dai Phao (Grand Cannon) literally have more bigger caliber compare to Cannon. Crew have round rattan shield, large knives and leather hat (Tu Phuong Binh hat)

Special units

Le: Emperor Guard (available in Thang Long only) They're a higher ranking of Imperial Guard and among the fiercest of DV army. Elite infantry armed with halberd and wear Chinese style reinforced steel lamellar armor
Primary Weapon: halberd.
Secondary Weapon: none
Primary Armor: reinforced steel lamellar armor
Additional Armor: none

Mac: Mac Mountain Infantry (available in the Northern mountains of DV, Region: Cao Bang) Strong and solid infantry armed with halberd. Can be a backbone of Mac's army. numerous and good armored plus combat bonus in mountain, jungle and semi hiding skill
Primary Weapon: halberd.
Secondary Weapon: none
Primary Armor: steel lamellar armor
Additional Armor: none

Trinh: Trinh's Heavy Cavalry (available in the core land of Mac, Region: Nghe An) Heavy cavalry armed with spear and sword. Heavily armored
Primary Weapon: spear.
Secondary Weapon: sword
Primary Armor: steel lamellar armor
Additional Armor: none

Nguyen: Nguyen Marksman (available in the core land of Nguyen, Region: Thuan Hoa)highly trained Arquesbusiers. Black uniform and non la (black also), wear arquesbus and sword plus round wooden shield on the back, paper armor. Lighter compared to Guards Arquesbusier but numerous. They obviously have better trail than normal Arquesbusiers.
Primary Weapon: musket (arquesbus).
Secondary Weapon: sword
Primary Armor: paper armor
Additional Armor: none

P/S: Bác nhí nhố nên đổi Guerrilla fighters thành Ambushers hoặc gì gì đấy, chúng nó lại tưởng mình đánh du kích thì chết

 

đơi tí chủ nhật rảnh em viết cho

 

Bác nhí nhố viết cái descr nào rồi thì thông báo kẻ lại trùng nhau thì phí

 

II. Dan Quan (militia and semi-regular)

Unit description

Dan Quan mean militia in Vietnamese. They was considered as the "national pride" of Vietnam. The symbol of bravery, fanatic, sacrifice and cunning. Call to arms from anybody when the country is threaten and often draw from the lower class of society. Like the famous poet Nguyen Dinh Chieu wrote in his literary: "tay cam mot ngon tam vong" or "hand holding just a bamboo spear", their equipment is nothing more than a bamboo spear and a bunch of stone pick up right on the field They didn't wear any kind of protection, their training was poor (if there're any). The reason for us to add stone simply because "cu dau bay" (the funnier words to call stone) was actually used in combat in desperate situation

They're however tough and have the spirit to fight while still cunning enough to hide and ambush the enemy. Good Vietnamese commanders will look at these folks with keen eyes. Like any militia force they're good in patrol, keeping order and garrison duty (even now militia arms with bamboo sticks still patrol every night for people's security). Unlike most other militias however Dan Quan can (and they actually was) found themselves in the mid of battles rather often! In battle their nasty stone will give the enemy headache (literally not figuratively), they can also used as canon folder or provide support for more professional force or simply boots the number of the army. They will fight and fight hard again any invaders to protect their family and their homeland. Of course these folks will melt away quickly again true soldiers and vulnerable again all kind of missile fire.

Unit description

Quan Du Kich or Guerrilla Fighter. No doubt these men are the pride of Vietnamese and a true symbol of the guerrilla warfare and the "army of people" of Vietnamese. Hardened through out many wars, large in number, well known in bravery and cunning reach the title of legend. Draw from any man available either by the local government or more often band together to protect their home when needed . Arms with light wooden crossbow and traditional Vietnamese's machete the "rua". Rallying in mobility mean they didn't wear any kind of protection beside a small rattan shield hanging in the back. What's more as the masters of ambush, hit and run tactic their hiding skill is perfect so these men can hide almost anywhere.

Quan Du Kich was a workhorse of the army. These light skirmisher is a very useful and versatile force. As the master of guerrilla warfare Quan Du Kich can be use as the raiding party, scout or ambushers. In garrison duty, along side with Dan Quan or Huong Dung they made a good garrison force. These irregular missile troops can also take a significant role on the battlefield. They can weaken the enemy's army with the hails of arrows. Keep in mind that these troops is volunteers not soldiers so don't let them fight alone again regular force or they will choose to fight another the day before you order them to do so.


III. Quan Ngoai (literally: Outside troop but the meaning is regular troop)

Unit description

Giao Binh mean spearman. Conscription from any man over 20 of Dai Viet's society via the "ngu binh u nong" system. These solid spearman along with pikeman formed the bulk of Dai Viet army. They're rather well trained and discipline soldiers. Their weapons the overhead spear, the large wooden oval shield and some javelin was provide by the state.

Numerous and versatile these men will fulfill any task from take the fight to the enemy, defeat Light-Medium cavalry, form the defensive line or guard the flanks of the army. within their limit these man will carry the day. However they are standard semi-regular troopers and shouldn’t be pushed out of their limits or they will break.

In Dai Viet there're a system call "ngu binh u nong". These simple system was used for very long time (from 11th century until early 17 century) with great effect. Literally any man over 20 ages will be levy into the army. It's mean in the war time almost any man is the soldiers. In peace time however, most of troops (can be 5/6 of the total levy army) will be send home to farming and live their normal life in a certain months (roundly 8-10 months per year). Then they will be concentrated again for a military purpose and training. In Le dynasty even the Imperial Guard was send home for farming. This cycle will ensure both economic and security of the state since the country can maintain a very large army (almost the entire people) but still not harm the economic! To made the system run smoothly however demand the spirit and loyalty of people and good leaders.

Unit description:

Along with crossbow and bamboo spear, "cau liem" or billhook was a traditional weapon of Viet's people. Viet's Billman like their spear and pike arms brethren was men conscripted via "ngu binh u nong" system. However these men was often choose from the better and tougher man. Quan Cau Liem also received more training and have somewhat better equipment. To compensate their inability to carry shield they wear paper armor, plus wood mirror outside and helmet

Their weapon of choice the two handed cau liem or billhook is equally comfortable in both attack and defence. Wielding the billhook allows Quan Cau Liem to hack, stab and chop if needed and this weapon proved devastated again both infantry and cavalry. Quan Cau Liem was a typical assault infantry in Daiviet's army. Advancing in good order while hacking away anything on their way, stay in or storm the fortification is their main tasks. Have pike and spear units hold the line while Quan Cau Liem attacking from the ranks or lead the assault. A wise commander will also remember though have good armor it's a waste to have them run straight into a hails of musket fire

In Dai Viet there're a system call "ngu binh u nong". These simple system was used for very long time (from 11th century until early 17 century) with great effect. Literally any man over 20 ages will be levy into the army. It's mean in the war time almost any man is the soldiers. In peace time however, most of troops (can be 5/6 of the total levy army) will be send home to farming and live their normal life in a certain months (roundly 8-10 months per year). Then they will be concentrated again for a military purpose and training. In Le dynasty even the Imperial Guard was send home for farming. This cycle will ensure both economic and security of the state since the country can maintain a very large army (almost the entire people) but still not harm the economic! To made the system run smoothly however demand the spirit and loyalty of people and good leaders

Unit description:

Giao Dai or pike along with Thuong or spear was a basic weapon in Daiviet's army. Since Vietnam was heavily influenced by China so fighting in solid pike wall was popular long before European brought their army to South East Asia. Conscription via "ngu binh u nong" system these tough and trained pikeman along with spearman formed the core of Daiviet's army. Beside their two handed pike they also carry a short sword (more exactly the large knife) as the sidearms weapon. They also wear paper armor plus wood mirror outside and good helmet for protection

These harden and discipline pikeman is very useful in defensive role. The enemy's infantry will have to pay dearly if they want to break through Quan Giao Dai's pike wall and only fools cavalryman will charge direct into the forest of pike. In offensive Quan Giao Dai can be use as the Battering Ram. Slowly move toward the enemy line and grind them down with their pike wall. Use correctly and give them some support these troops will win the day. Just keep in mind thought have a great strength in the front these man however vulnerable in both flanks and the inability to carry shield also made Quan Giao Dai even more vulnerable again missile fire.

In Dai Viet there're a system call "ngu binh u nong". These simple system was used for very long time (from 11th century until early 17 century) with great effect. Literally any man over 20 ages will be levy into the army. It's mean in the war time almost any man is the soldiers. In peace time however, most of troops (can be 5/6 of the total levy army) will be send home to farming and live their normal life in a certain months (roundly 8-10 months per year). Then they will be concentrated again for a military purpose and training. In Le dynasty even the Imperial Guard was send home for farming. This cycle will ensure both economic and security of the state since the country can maintain a very large army (almost the entire people) but still not harm the economic! To made the system run smoothly however demand the spirit and loyalty of people and good leaders

Unit description

Cung Thu simply mean archer. Recruited from lower class of Viet's society via "ngu binh u nong" system. These hybrid semi-regular archers was trained to use the bamboo bow which related to composites bow. Beside the bow they also carried a large knives and a round wooden shield for melee combat. Used mainly to weaken the enemy and support the main army.

Cung Thu played a vital role in Viet's army. Since Daiviet favored the mobility, hit and run warfare so these men also trained to protect themselves and support other in melee. They're however best use to stay behind the shields and spears of the other units while weaken the enemy from a far. Then they can act as light melee infantry.

In Dai Viet there're a system call "ngu binh u nong". These simple system was used for very long time (from 11th century until early 17 century) with great effect. Literally any man over 20 ages will be levy into the army. It's mean in the war time almost any man is the soldiers. In peace time however, most of troops (can be 5/6 of the total levy army) will be send home to farming and live their normal life in a certain months (roundly 8-10 months per year). Then they will be concentrated again for a military purpose and training. In Le dynasty even the Imperial Guard was send home for farming. This cycle will ensure both economic and security of the state since the country can maintain a very large army (almost the entire people) but still not harm the economic! To made the system run smoothly however demand the spirit and loyalty of people and good leaders.

6. Cam Quan (Imperial Guards)

Regional Units: Train in Thăng Long (Thang Long) capital and Thanh Hoa (Thanh Hóa) provide

Part of Daiviet Imperial Guards Corps. Equip with the best sword, spear, reinforced oval shield and steel lamellar armor Daiviet. Discipline and fearless. These loyal bodyguards (like Roman's praetorian) were the last wall protecting the divine son of Heaven himself and the royal palace.

Unit description:

Cam Quan or Imperial Guards no doubt is the best soldiers Daiviet can field. Choose to protect the Emperor (the divine son of Heaven) and the capital, these men was carefully chosen from the Emperor’s clan himself. Clad in the best steel lamellar armor and equip with best sword, spear and reinforced round shield the royal arsenal can provide. Their training is better than any other troops, their discipline is unmatch. These fearless and fanatic warriors will unquestioning sacrifice themselves to protect their great "cousin".

Cam Quan was a very effect fighting force. Historically even the Mongol horde was unable to beat them. Small in number but these man can made the whole enemy's army run for their life. They're also useful to counter the enemy elite force or protect the generals (and the emperor) as well. However it's a waste and unwise to use them without support. Though superior their number is small and hard to train. Place them in the crucial positions and let them strike fear into the enemy as well as inspire the other unit is the best way to carry the day.

Historically Daiviet's Imperial Guards first established in the time of the First Le dynasty in 10th century. Soon these elite force has become a elite unit of Daiviet's army with the name "Thanh Duc". In 1466, Emperor Le Thanh Tong (Second Le dynasty) reformed the army. The Imperial Guard was given a new name “Cam Quan”. Just like before they're in charge to defending the capital Thang Long and the royal family. The Guard's corps included many divisions or Ve: among them are Cam Y Ve and Kim Ngo Ve. These units was modeled after the Chinese Ming Dynasty Jinyi Wei. The Guards was recruited directly from the Emperor's clan (often from Thanh Hoa the homeland of Le Dynasty and Nghe An province) and few other exception.

 

Vụ này là hỏng
Chúng nó lại bảo VN chuyên đánh du kích.
Bác sửa lại đi. Kiểu như

Historically, Dai Viet army was not a guerrilla army. But their was a kind of militias in the Northern jungles that fight with guerrilla strategy. They weren't in the main army, they were people who fight for their villages when the enemy came. Independent to the army, not an important part, not the main force who defeat the enemy, but guerrilla fighters showed their brave in the fight without any rewards, all their belief is to defend their village and kill as many enemy as possible.

 

Những vùng miền cao của Đại Việt là nơi sinh sống của các đồng bào dân tộc thiểu số.hộ thộc quyền cai trị của các tộc trưởng nhưng dưới trướng của đế chế đại việt qua các thời. có những chiến binh trẻ được triệu tập để đánh thuê trong các trận giao chiến tại nơi đây đó là các binh đoàn Nùng Lao.do không phải là binh chủng chính quy nên nùng lào có trang bị thô sơ,chỉ với một hộ tâm bằng gỗ trên mình,không có giáp,họ chiến đấu với lao và giáp lá cà bằng cau liêm.tuy thô sơ nhưng nếu những tướng lĩnh biết sử dụng họ thì lính Nùng Lao đem lại hiệu quả ko nhỏ.Với trang bị nhẹ,sức bền tốn và thiện chiến ở rừng núi thì nùng lào rất phù hợp cho những đợt tập kích bất ngờ,hỗn chiến ở rừng rậm.Tuy vậy, vơi bản chất là lính đánh thuê nên độtrung thành của họ cũng chỉ ngang mức tiền được hưởng.

cùng với những nùng lao còn có nhưng khinh kỵ nùng sở trường dùng cung. xuất thân là những thợ săn ưu tú,họ được triệu tập cho những trận chiến và nhận tiền từ các phe .Nhanh nhẹn,dẻo dai,thiện xạ là ưu điểm của họ.với những đội kỵ đã quen săn bắn tại núi rừng hiểm trở,họ trở thành những sự lựa chọn ưu việt cho lối đánh haras và phân tán kẻ thù ,là một trong những binh chủng sẽ gây khó chịu nhất cho đối thủ.

 

No no no làm thế thì đánh giá thấp các ô này quá. Du kích thời nào cũng có và đều là "high status" cả mà . Với lại phần phía dưới chả phải đã nói đám này dùng đánh độc lập, thủ thành hay trinh sát, quấy phá còn gì

 

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