Release bản test thử lính Đại Việt.

Đây là bản test thử mod lính ĐV của mình, gồm 10 lính mới:


Lưu ý: Các loại lính mới sẽ xuất hiện dần trong các post sau nên phiền các bạn kiên nhẫn theo dõi, nếu không có thể dùng tạm hàng fantasy ở trang 1.


DaiViet Peasants (cầm gậy tre đánh nhau)

DaiViet spearmen:

DaiViet Swordmen:

DaiViet Archers:

DaiViet Calvary:

DaiViet Heavy Spearmen:

DaiViet Bodyguards(mounted & dismounted):


DaiViet Bodyguards upgrade (mounted & dismounted):


DaiViet General:

+DaiViet standard (officer cầm cờ ngũ sắc)
+Unit cards
Link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S6L8OXHV

Các bạn cũng có thể thử submod của bác nhinhonhinho ở trang sau: http://forum.gamevn.com/showthread.php?785186-Sub-mod-for-RTW-xgm-quot-The-DVWEA-s-invasion-quot

Down về rồi thì làm theo guide sau để add lính vô game. athenian late hoplite là 1 ví dụ. Các bạn làm tương tự với các lính khác:
[spoil]How to install the units.

Note: I will use the Athenian Late Hoplite as example.
Note#2: this install instructions refer to the text files from vanilla RTW v1.5. In general it is the same with mods too, but some of them change the path where they have the graphic or even text files installed. Other then that, the same rules apply.
Note#3: this guide will tell you how to install the units using as example one of them. It is not a guide that contains the needed text for each and every unit in the pack. It is supposed to teach you how to do that so you`ll be able to do it on your own later.

Table of contents:

I.Decompress the pack--------------------------------- -------------------- page 1
II.Placing the units in the right location----------------------------------- page 1
III.Editing the text files---------------------------------------------starts on page 2
Editing export_units------------------------------------------page 2
Editing export_descr_unit_enums--------------------------page 3
Editing export_descr_unit-----------------------------------page 3
Editing descr_model_battle---------------------------------page 5
Editing export_descr_buildings----------------------------page 6
IV.Making units available only in certain regions------------------------ page 8
V.Making units recruitable only after the reforms----------------------- page 8
VI.Making sprites for the units---------------------------------------------- page 9
VII.Adding sounds for the new added units-------------------------------- page 10
VIII.Adding the unit cards----------------------------------------------------- page 11





I. Decompress the pack
It`s a rar archive. You will notice that inside all the units have their own folder named after them and there is also a unit card folder that has the unit card for all of them.

II. Placing the unit files in the right location
You will notice that in the folder for the Athenian Late Hoplite there are 3 files. One is a JPG picture of it. That has is just for show, it has nothing to do with the install. The other two are:
Athenian_Hoplite_Late.cas
Athenian_Hoplite_Late.tga.dds

The .cas one is the model, the 3d part of the unit.
The .tga.dds one is the texture, the 2d part that covers the model and is responsible for the colors, face and so one.

You need to place the .cas file in this location:
Rome – Total War/data/models_unit

The .tga.dds file you need to place in this location:
Rome – Total War/data/models_unit/textures
Note: the texture folder do not exist there by default so you will have to create a new folder named textures inside Rome – Total War/data/models_unit



III. Editing the text files
The files being placed in their right location you need to edit the following text files:

Export_descr_unit - it is the one where the unit stats are mentioned
Export_descr_unit_enums - link the unit to the description and unit cards
Descr_model_battle – the file where the graphic aspect(texture, model and sprites) is defined
Export_units - the file where the unit description is.
Export_descr_buildings - the file where you make the unit recruitable.


Editing export_units

The file is located here:
Rome – Total War/data/text
It is a text file that you can open with notepad. This goes for all the other ones too.

If you want to modify one of the existing units do a search in the file for the name that the unit has in game. For example hoplites. You will find this entry:

{greek_hoplite} Hoplites

{greek_hoplite_descr}
Hardy\nSapping Ability\nCan Form Phalanx\n\nThe basis of nearly all military power in Greece once revolved around the hoplite. {...snip…}which doubles as a weapon if the pike shaft breaks.

{greek_hoplite_descr_short}
Hoplites are well equipped infantry that are most effective in the formidable, if slightly inflexible, phalanx formation.

¬----------------

Now, the one in blue is the name that appears in game. It has little relevance and as the description text it is cosmetic and you can change it to whatever you want. Don`t make it too long though or it will look bad in recruiting panels.
The ones in red are the lines that matter. They link the unit to its description and the unit cards. If you are simple modifying an existing unit you should leave those alone as they do not show up in game anyway.
If you want to add a unit without replacing an existing one you should copy the whole text as it is bellow and place it at the end of the text file. Then it is important that you modify the red lines if you want the new unit to have a new description and new unit cards. For example:

{athenian_hoplite_late} Late Athenian Hoplites

{athenian_hoplite_late_descr}
Hardy\nSapping Ability\nCan Form Phalanx\n\nThe basis of nearly all military power in Greece once revolved around the hoplite. {...snip…}which doubles as a weapon if the pike shaft breaks.

{athenian_hoplite_late _ descr _short}
Hoplites are well equipped infantry that are most effective in the formidable, if slightly inflexible, phalanx formation.

¬----------------


Note that you should not remove the existing brackets and the second line should end in _descr and the third in _descr_short
The text that fallows after the brackets with the _descr part is the text that appears when you right click the unit and you get the unit panel.
The text that fallows after the brackets with the _descr_short part is the short text that appears when you put your mouse on the unit in recruiting panels for example.




Editing Export_descr_unit_enums
Those red lines from export_units you need to place in the file export_descr_unit_enums.
The file is in this location:
Rome – Total War/data
Open it and at the end of the file add this according to our example:

athenian_hoplite_late
athenian_hoplite_late _descr
athenian_hoplite_late _descr_short

You need to leave one empty line between the previous group and the new one.

Editing export_descr_unit
The file is in this location:
Rome – Total War/data
This is where the unit stats are designated and a number of other things that relate to other text files. To change the unit stats you can consult the explanations at the beginning of the file. They tell you what those numbers stand for.
Now, to include a new unit you can use one of the already existing entries there. For example the one for the RTW greek hoplite since it is a similar unit. To find it you need to do a search for what was in the brackets in export_units. For example:
{greek_hoplite} Hoplites

You will find this entry:

type greek hoplite
dictionary greek_hoplite ; Hoplites
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type Medium_1
soldier greek_hoplite, 40, 0, 1
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap
formation 1, 1, 2, 2, 5, square, phalanx
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 7, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr spear, spear_bonus_8
stat_sec 5, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 6, 5, 5, leather
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 3
stat_ground 2, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental 4, normal, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 440, 170, 50, 70, 440
ownership greek_cities, slave

Copy all this and place it at the end of the file leaving two empty lines between it and the previous one.
Now, you will need to change a few things for the new unit. These are the necessary ones. The stats you can change as you want later.

First of all you need to change the entry`s title because you can`t have two entries named the same or you will get a CTD. So change this part:
type greek hoplite
to this:
type athenian late hoplite

Secondly, if you need to change the unit`s dictionary entry(the one that links to export_units). Change this line:
dictionary greek_hoplite ; Hoplites
to this:
dictionary athenian_late_hoplite ; Hoplites

Note: the sign ; is used to hide what follows after it from the game`s engine. So Hoplites in the example above will not be read. This means that you can change that to Athenian Hoplites or whatever, but you can just leave it as it is.

Thirdly you need to change the unit`s aspect. Better said the entry that links to descr_model_battle. So change this line:
soldier greek_hoplite, 40, 0, 1
to this:
soldier athenian_late_hoplite, 40, 0, 1

Now, if you want to give the unit to another country you need to edit the ownership:
ownership greek_cities, slave
Currently it is being recruited by the greek cities and the rebels. Here is a list of the factions`s internal names which you can add there in the format shown.
romans_julii
romans_brutii
romans_scipii
romans_senate
egypt
seleucid
carthage
parthia
gauls
germans
britons
greek_cities
macedon
pontus
armenia
dacia
numidia
scythia
spain
thrace
slave

I presume they are self explanatory.

Editing Descr_model_battle.

This is where you define what graphics the unit will use. The file is located in this location:
Rome – Total War/data
To add a new unit you can copy and then modify one of the existing entries. Again, it is handy to use the entry for the RTW greek hoplite as you did in export_descr_unit.
So, open the file and do a search for what was in export_descr_unit next to the soldier entry. For example:
soldier greek_hoplite, 40, 0, 1
You will find this entry:
type greek_hoplite
skeleton fs_spearman, fs_swordsman ; combat spear
indiv_range 40
texture slave, data/models_unit/textures/unit_greek_hoplite_slave.tga
texture greek_cities, data/models_unit/textures/unit_greek_hoplite_greek.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_hoplite_high.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_hoplite_med.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_hoplite_low.cas, 40
model_flexi data/models_unit/unit_greek_hoplite_lowest.cas, max
model_sprite slave, 60.0, data/sprites/slave_greek_hoplite_sprite.spr
model_sprite greek_cities, 60.0, data/sprites/greek_cities_greek_hoplite_sprite.spr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

The texture entry is where you designate the texture used. Namely
Athenian_Hoplite_Late.tga.dds
In our example. The textures are designated based on faction ownership(with a special mention for mercenaries that will be made bellow). So, you need to have the wanted faction set in the unit ownership in export_descr_unit and again, here, in front of the texture.
The model (model_flexi) is not designated based on faction and will be used by all of them on this entry. So, while you can have different textures for each faction(different colors and such in game) you will only have one model. The model is in our example:
Athenian_Hoplite_Late.cas
The sprites (model_sprite) are the 2d images that you see when you zoom out from the unit. They replace the image of the 3d model so as to increase performance in game. The units in this pack do not have sprites, but I`ll show you bellow how to make them. It`s a fairly easy process.

You will notice that those lines contain the path for the files and some other stats. You need to leave those alone and just change the name of the graphic files. Like this:

type athenian_late_hoplite
skeleton fs_spearman, fs_swordsman ; combat spear
indiv_range 40
texture slave, data/models_unit/textures/Athenian_Hoplite_Late.tga
texture greek_cities, data/models_unit/textures/Athenian_Hoplite_Late.tga
model_flexi data/models_unit/Athenian_Hoplite_Late.cas, 15
model_flexi data/models_unit/Athenian_Hoplite_Late.cas, 30
model_flexi data/models_unit/Athenian_Hoplite_Late.cas, 40
model_flexi data/models_unit/Athenian_Hoplite_Late.cas, max
model_sprite slave, 60.0, data/sprites/athenian_late_hoplite_sprite.scr
model_sprite greek_cities, 60.0, data/sprites/athenian_late_hoplite_sprite.scr
model_tri 400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

Note that I have changed the title of the entry(to athenian_late_hoplite) so that it will match with the soldier entry in export_descr_unit. As in export_descr_unit you can not have more then one entry with the same name.
Also, note that for the entry of the texture you need to not mention the .dds that is at the end in the name of the graphic file or it will CTD. It needs to end in .tga as in the example above.

The changing of the sprites I will explain bellow.


Editing Export_descr_buildings

This file is where you make the units recruitable by the desired faction from the desired building. You can also define a specific region for a unit so that it will only be available for recruitment there. This I will show you in a chapter bellow.
The file in this location:
Rome – Total War/data
If you`ve just replaced one of the already existing units then you can leave this file as it is and you`ll have that unit recruitable as it was before. If you have added a new unit then you will need to add recruiting lines for it. Open the file. You will see that you have a line that looks like this:
levels governors_house governors_villa governors_palace proconsuls_palace imperial_palace
Those are all the government buildings as they are upgraded and then you will have them detailed with the basic units they allow. If you want your unit to be recruited form the government buildings you can add it here, but in vanilla these were only for the peasant units. For a hoplite you need to go to the barracks. These are the levels:
levels muster_field militia_barracks city_barracks army_barracks royal_barracks
You will need to add your unit under the ones where you want it to be available. One thing first. The line above is the order in which they are upgraded. So, if you add your unit to be available with the second level of barracks be sure to add it to the following levels too or it will disappear once you have upgraded your barracks. In this case you can use the example of the RTW greek hoplites:
militia_barracks requires factions { barbarian, carthaginian, eastern, parthia, egyptian, greek, roman, }
{
capability
{
recruit "carthaginian city militia" 0 requires factions { spain, }
recruit "carthaginian infantry" 0 requires factions { spain, }
recruit "barb infantry briton" 0 requires factions { britons, }
recruit "barb infantry dacian" 0 requires factions { dacia, }
recruit "barb infantry gaul" 0 requires factions { gauls, }
recruit "warband spear german" 0 requires factions { germans, }
recruit "barb horse archers scythian" 0 requires factions { scythia, }
recruit "warband sword briton" 0 requires factions { britons, }
recruit "warband sword gaul" 0 requires factions { gauls, }
recruit "warband axe german" 0 requires factions { germans, }
recruit "warband axe scythian" 0 requires factions { scythia, }
recruit "warband falx dacian" 0 requires factions { dacia, }
recruit "carthaginian city militia" 0 requires factions { carthage, }
recruit "numidian javelinmen" 0 requires factions { numidia, }
recruit "carthaginian infantry" 0 requires factions { carthage, }
recruit "numidian desert warriors" 0 requires factions { numidia, }
recruit "east hillmen" 0 requires factions { eastern, }
recruit "east infantry" 0 requires factions { eastern, }
recruit "egyptian nubian spearmen" 0 requires factions { egyptian, }
recruit "egyptian nile infantry" 0 requires factions { egyptian, }
recruit "greek hoplite militia" 0 requires factions { greek, }
recruit "greek levy pikemen" 0 requires factions { seleucid, macedon, }
recruit "warband falx thracian" 0 requires factions { thrace, }
recruit "greek hoplite" 0 requires factions { greek_cities, }
recruit "roman city militia" 0 requires factions { roman, }
recruit "roman hastati" 0 requires factions { roman, } and not marian_reforms
recruit "roman infantry auxillia" 0 requires factions { roman, } and marian_reforms
}
So, you just copy this line and add it under it. You then adjust it with the new unit` name so it will look like this:

recruit "athenian late hoplite" 0 requires factions { greek_cities, }

Place this under the line for the greek hoplite.

Note:
athenian late hoplite is the one the type entry from export_descr_unit has.
0 stands for the experience with which the unit is recruited. If you want it to be recruited with experience you can increase that.
greek_cities is the faction ownership. The faction that can recruit this unit. You can add more then one, but be sure not to lose that comma after the name.
[/spoil]

 

nhìn lính đại việt ta chất quá

 

nên đưa cho mấy ông yevon hay stsatan trên TWC test hộ.
Nên đưa mấy unit này vào:



Mấy cái đao dài, khiên lục giác, rìu cán dài trên nên đưa vào cho thêm chất.

 

Thanks naq đã post hình, mình sẽ thử làm mấy thằng đấy

 

Súng ống nữa bác ơi
Bác xem qua cái thread Đại Việt em lamd bên group ASEAN ấy

---------- Post added at 22:38 ---------- Previous post was at 22:34 ----------


Thằng này trông hơi hơi giống quân Thanh

 

Hay đóa. Nhưng mà trang phục này là của...lính nhà Nguyễn! Nên bỏ nón lá đi (tất nhiên nếu pà con ưa thích nón lá thì giữ n thời Hậu Lê đúng là 0 có nón lá đâu ) thay = helmet (sẽ nói riêng) với nón của lính trong hình của ô naq nếu đc

Bác làm phỏng theo mấy cái descr của tui với bác champion123 (Dragonfly bên TWC) bên TWC đi đây nè (post 1 và phần dưới cùng post 2 nhé). Lười thì chỉ cần xem paragraph 1 là đủ

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/group.php?do=discuss&group=&discussionid=2850

Để xem nào. Nhận xét và gợi ý cho từng loại đây:

Cái này tương đương Giáp Sĩ (armored infantry)



Dân quân (Daiviet's Militias): cầm gậy tre và chọi đá (có 1 unit peasant trong Nusantara làm cái trò này nếu cần để tui đưa tên và hình cho bác tự kiếm)!



Cái này ghép thêm cái giáp da+helmet vô là thành pikeman (giống phalanx ấy)



DaiViet Swordmen: thêm giáp da (tương tự pikeman)+helmet+javelin là OK



Này có thể làm thành 3 unit luôn

1. Dẹp cái nón đi cho mặc áo nông dân (như dân quân trên kia)=>Du kích quân (Guerrilla fighter). Nếu đc thì bác cho cầm cái bamboo bow nhá (trong XGM thằng Indian longbow ấy). Cận chiến = kiếm ngắn:

(tự sướng) về Guerrilla fighter national pride of Vietnamese, the most effective and terrible troops in wars history. They even more dangerous than Spartan or Roman. Mongol HA or the hordes of Chinese armored troops simply useless again them. Their direct descendant also defeat Japan, France and USA. They're simply invincible since nothing can defeat them ^^

2. Giữ nguyên là thành regular archer. Nếu đc thì bác cho cầm cái bamboo bow nhá (trong XGM thằng Indian longbow ấy). Cận chiến = kiếm ngắn

3. Cho mặc thêm giáp sắt giống Giáp Sĩ+đeo khiên tròn sau lưng+helmet. Cung giữ nguyên vì đây là composite bow=>Trường cung thủ Elite Archer



DaiViet Calvary thêm giáp da+helmet vô là OK



Cái này nên bỏ đi . Bác lấy mẫu của thureophoroi rồi thay quần áo với helmet DV vô, tô cái khiên cho giống khiên gỗ (biểu tượng trống đồng trên khiên) là thành regular spearman (Quân Đánh Giáo)



Bỏ giáo đi, mặc giáp da+helmet vào, cho cầm cung và kiếm (giống của swordsman) để làm kị cung



Thiết Kị và mounted BG (2 loại quân) cho mặc lamellar ngon ngon tí. Làm cái giáp nó đậm 1 chút là OK



Mặc lamellar vào (giống mounted) bỏ giáo đi thay = kiếm là có Ngự Lâm Quân (Imperial Guard)



DaiViet General: chuẩn 0 cần chỉnh


DaiViet standard (officer cầm cờ ngũ sắc). Làm thêm 1 anh nữa cầm tù hay kiếm hoặc 1 anh nữa cầm cờ (1 cầm cờ vuông 1 cầm cờ tam giác). Cho 3 officer/unit cho nó hoành tá tràng

PS:Bác đi xin copy right của BOA với của thằng modders XGM đi (Dime Bag Ho ấy) có gì để tui nói phụ cho . Xin đc rồi post qua TWC là ta có gần đủ DV roster rồi . Mấy loại khác để từ từ

Dân TW cộng rep cho bác ý nhiệt tình đi nào. Chào mừng Skinner mới của GVN chúng ta. Chủ bút của đài Nhinho vừa tuyên bố sẽ đưa sự kiện này lên sóng truyền hình và sẽ liên tục cập nhật tin tức về đề tài này

 

sao DaiViet Bodyguards upgrade (mounted & dismounted) với DaiViet Heavy Spearmen nhìn giống quân Mãn Thanh vậy >''<
có khi tui xem nhiều phim Tàu quá :)

 

VN thật sự bị ảnh hưởng nhiều bởi TQ cho nên chuyện copy 1 vài món hay của nó đâu có gì lạ hay xấu!

Để từ từ rồi mình ghép unit descr vô hình unit luôn

 

Mà thời Hậu Lê vẫn còn chơi nón đấy chứ bác

---------- Post added 19-12-2010 at 00:02 ---------- Previous post was 18-12-2010 at 23:59 ----------

Bác phananhtom vẫn thiếu cái quần lụa trắng :-D

 

0 thời ấy dùng nón "Tứ Phương Bình" kia. Ông phananhtom làm đc như thế này + helmet là hay nhất đóa



Đừng bảo nó "giống Tàu" thật ra TQ 0 có cái kiểu nón đó đâu (muốn biết thêm chi tiết cứ qua lsvn)=.=. Và như tui nói ở post trên đó. Giống TQ chả có gì là xấu cả. Cái chính là lịch sử nó như thế!

 

Nón lá cũng được có gì đâu .

 

À tất nhiên nếu pà con thích nón lá thì cứ để nón lá cho nó chất. Tất nhiên vài loại quân xịn thì nên để nón sắt cho nó đa dạng

 

hay là ta vừa để nón vừa dùngc mũ giáp nhĩ,sao các unit từ bắp đến chính quy nhiều thằng đi chân đát vậy cho nó mang dày cỏ đi chứ

 

Vậy là sài nón lá à . Thế càng tốt

Đương nhiên là đa số sẽ đội nón giáp. 1 số loại quân cấp thấp đội nón lá. Theo cái gợi ý của tui đc hem

 

Tứ phương bình bình là thời Lý Trần và trước đó thôi mấy bác. Hậu Lê bắt đầu đổi sang nón lá rồi

 

Vừa được biết thêm là thời nhà Lê triều đình có 2 đội cận vệ đặc nhiệm là Vệ Cẩm Y và Vệ Kim Ngô. Đây là 2 đơn vị thiện chiến có khi còn được cử đi đánh cướp biển.
Nên thay Ngự Lâm Quân (cái tên trái lịch sử) bằng 2 đội này.

Vũ khí thì có thể sử dụng cái chùy như thế này:


ngồn: lichsuvn

 

Mà cái khiên Đại Việt hình oval và có ngôi sao 12 cánh (ngôi sao trong trống đồng ở giữa)
Nó không nhiều chi tiết quá như cái trên đâu

 

Cảm ơn các bác đã có ý kiến.

Mình từng thấy có tượng thằng lính cầm cái khiên trông y hệt cái trống đồng mà, nhiều chi tiết lắm, không nhớ rõ ở đâu, không biết có phải bọn nó khắc sai hay không.
Mà xin hỏi giáp da Đại Việt trông như thế nào vậy

 

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Đấy có phải giáp da đâu. Là cái hộ tâm kính để bảo vệ ngực mà. Đại Việt xưa cũng đeo nhiều cái này.

Hộ tâm kính nó như thế này này (hình bên trái):

Cậu cứ cho mỗi chú đeo 1 cái trước ngực là ổn. Khiên tròn thay bằng khiên oval hoặc khiên lục giác đi.

Mấy cái áo choàng bỏ đi.