Room Chiến thuật - Bàn luận về cách Build Team mọi thứ liên quan chiên thuật PK.

cũng đã cố gắng nhưng khó xoay chuyển lối tư duy đó lắm
phải có thực tế chứng minh chứ.

mà cũng nó là bạn mình, nên mình cũng khó xử quá nên nhờ mọi người giúp vậy, bạn cuonglang230 nếu rảnh pm y! cho mình nhé :)

à, cho mình hỏi thêm về Kyogre timid nhé: water spout/ice beam/thunder/toxic có ổn k nhỉ? nên hold Choice Spec hay Life Orb mọi người?

 

Ít ai dùng Kyogre trong vai trò Toxic Inflicter lắm!
Nên dùng Surf hoặc Calm Mind thay vào :)

 

uhm, y!m của bạn là gì ?
con Kyogre thì mình thấy Water spout ko chắc cho lắm, Surf hoặc Hydro pump tốt hơn, nếu hold Choice thì bạn nên để 4 move đánh, ko thì cứ LO (cơ mà Choice scarf Water spout cũng ngon đấy nhỉ )

 

để choice scarf, move cuối để là surf set scarf kyr nổi tiếng của smogon

 

Cho em hỏi nếu 2 weather summoner Đều có speed = nhau thì ai summon trước ạ

 

Garchomp max speed thì nguy hiểm thôi chứ không đến nổi sweep bay tất team

Ăn quả Focus Sash + Ice move là xong!

 

nếu speed tie thì lúc đó sẽ có 1 màn tung đồng xu quyết định

 

Mình thì cực ghét các loại baton pass nhất là blaziken .

 

Theo các anh có nên đưa Victini vào Sunny team ko vì em thấy nó có V-create dam quá cao

 

cũng đc thôi, dam to vậy cơ mà choice band nữa

 

Thấy Victini thì V-create xác định White Herb đánh cho nó dai

 

tùy thôi, đằng nào chả hit and run, cứ choice band oánh cho nó máu

 

Dạo này Dark lại có sở thích đánh dai mới chết chứ :'>

Mã:

Battle between [GVN]Hayama and BronseD started!

Rule: Unrated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Wifi Battle

BronseD sent out Ludicolo!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Ninetales!
Ninetales's Drought intensified the sun's rays!

Start of turn 1
The foe's Ludicolo used Fake Out!
Ninetales lost 36 HP! (12% of its health)
The foe's Ludicolo is hurt by its Life Orb!

Ninetales flinched!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 2
Ninetales used Hypnosis!
The foe's Ludicolo fell asleep!

The foe's Ludicolo is fast asleep!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 3
Ninetales used Nasty Plot!
Ninetales's Sp. Att. sharply rose!

The foe's Ludicolo is fast asleep!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 4
Ninetales used Flamethrower!
The foe's Ludicolo lost 90% of its health!
The foe's Ludicolo fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
BronseD sent out Linoone!

Start of turn 5
The foe's Linoone used Thunder Wave!
Ninetales is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Ninetales is paralyzed! It can't move!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 6
The foe's Linoone used Surf!
It's super effective!
Ninetales lost 58 HP! (20% of its health)

Ninetales used Flamethrower!
The foe's Linoone lost 99% of its health!
The foe's Linoone hung on using its focus sash!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 7
The foe's Linoone used Surf!
It's super effective!
Ninetales lost 60 HP! (20% of its health)

Ninetales used Flamethrower!
The foe's Linoone lost 0% of its health!
The foe's Linoone fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
BronseD sent out Marowak!

Start of turn 8
The foe's Marowak used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
Ninetales lost 134 HP! (46% of its health)
Ninetales fainted!
The foe's Marowak is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Whimsicott!

Start of turn 9
Whimsicott used Encore!
The foe's Marowak received an encore!

The foe's Marowak used Earthquake!
It's not very effective...
Whimsicott lost 51 HP! (15% of its health)
The foe's Marowak is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Vns.Shadow13 is watching the battle.

Start of turn 10
BronseD called Marowak back!
BronseD sent out Drifblim!

Whimsicott used Leech Seed!
The foe's Drifblim was seeded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 11
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim used Toxic!
Whimsicott's substitute blocked Toxic!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 12
Whimsicott used Encore!
The foe's Drifblim received an encore!

The foe's Drifblim used Toxic!
Whimsicott's substitute blocked Toxic!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 13
BronseD called Drifblim back!
BronseD sent out Mienshao!

Whimsicott used Stun Spore!
The attack of Whimsicott missed!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 14
The foe's Mienshao used Fake Out!
Whimsicott's substitute took the damage!

Whimsicott used Stun Spore!
The foe's Mienshao is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 15
Whimsicott used Encore!
The foe's Mienshao received an encore!

The foe's Mienshao used Fake Out!
But it failed!

The sunlight is strong!

Start of turn 16
BronseD called Mienshao back!
BronseD sent out Marowak!

Whimsicott used Leech Seed!
The foe's Marowak was seeded!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Marowak's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 17
Whimsicott used Stun Spore!
The foe's Marowak is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

The foe's Marowak is paralyzed! It can't move!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Marowak's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 18
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott already has a substitute.

The foe's Marowak is paralyzed! It can't move!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Marowak's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 19
Whimsicott used Stun Spore!
The foe's Marowak is already paralyzed.

The foe's Marowak is paralyzed! It can't move!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Marowak's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 20
Whimsicott used Stun Spore!
The foe's Marowak is already paralyzed.

The foe's Marowak used Double-Edge!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!
The foe's Marowak is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Marowak's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 21
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Marowak used Double-Edge!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!
The foe's Marowak is hurt by its Life Orb!
The foe's Marowak fainted!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
BronseD sent out Drifblim!

Start of turn 22
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!
Vns.Shadow13 stopped watching the battle.

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 23
Whimsicott used Leech Seed!
The foe's Drifblim was seeded!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott lost 108 HP! (33% of its health)

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 24
Whimsicott used Stun Spore!
The foe's Drifblim is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott lost 108 HP! (33% of its health)
Whimsicott's Sp. Def. fell!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 25
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 26
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 27
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 28
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
A critical hit!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 29
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 30
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 31
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 32
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim is paralyzed! It can't move!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 33
Whimsicott used Stun Spore!
The foe's Drifblim is already paralyzed.

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 34
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 35
Whimsicott used Substitute!
Whimsicott made a substitute!

The foe's Drifblim used Shadow Ball!
Whimsicott's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Drifblim's health is sapped by leech seed.
The foe's Drifblim fainted!
BronseD sent out Mienshao!

Start of turn 36
The foe's Mienshao used Fake Out!
A critical hit!
Whimsicott lost 66 HP! (20% of its health)

Whimsicott flinched!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 37
Whimsicott used Leech Seed!
The attack of Whimsicott missed!

The foe's Mienshao used Drain Punch!
Whimsicott lost 84 HP! (25% of its health)
Whimsicott had its energy drained!

The sunlight is strong!
Whimsicott restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 38
Whimsicott used Leech Seed!
The foe's Mienshao was seeded!

The foe's Mienshao used Drain Punch!
Whimsicott lost 34 HP! (10% of its health)
Whimsicott fainted!
Whimsicott had its energy drained!

The sunlight is strong!
[GVN]Hayama sent out Venusaur!

Start of turn 39
Venusaur used Substitute!
Venusaur made a substitute!

The foe's Mienshao used Stone Edge!
The attack of the foe's Mienshao missed!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Mienshao's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 40
Venusaur used Giga Drain!
The foe's Mienshao lost 45% of its health!
The foe's Mienshao had its energy drained!

The foe's Mienshao used Stone Edge!
Venusaur's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Mienshao's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 41
Venusaur used Substitute!
Venusaur made a substitute!

The foe's Mienshao used Stone Edge!
Venusaur's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Mienshao's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 42
Venusaur used Substitute!
Venusaur made a substitute!

The foe's Mienshao used Stone Edge!
Venusaur's substitute faded!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Mienshao's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 43
Venusaur used Substitute!
Venusaur made a substitute!

The foe's Mienshao used Stone Edge!
The attack of the foe's Mienshao missed!

The sunlight is strong!
The foe's Mienshao's health is sapped by leech seed.
The foe's Mienshao fainted!
BronseD sent out Whiscash!

Start of turn 44
Venusaur used Giga Drain!
It's super effective!

2 con Sub đủ chọc nó điên

 

Đánh với bạn dark_dragons đúng là ức chế thật,hết sub rồi encore

 

cho em hỏi Blaze Judment là chiêu j vậy. Còn ngoài Link Skill và Hail, Sand thì còn cách nào chống Sub ko vậy
Làm sao để tính dam của SR vậy và Baton Pass có Prioty ko??
Cho em hỏi câu nữa con nào Sword Passer tốt vậy

 

Blaze Judgement chỉ Arceus đang hold Flame Plate dùng Judgement đó!
Còn Substitute, có thể dùng Roar, Whirlwind... để phá Hoặc Taunt nó phát rồi break Sub
Damage của Steath Rock tương đối dễ tính mà. Base damage là 12.5%, cứ theo type của Pokémon so với Rock type để mà tính.

• Ví dụ:
  • Unfezant có type là Flying => x2 damage thành 25%.
  • Articuno có type là Flying và Ice => x4 damage thành 50%.
  • Jirachi có type là Steel => x0.5 damage thành 6.25%
  • ...

Baton Pass không có Priority.

Về Sword dance Passer, thấy annoy nhất là con quỷ sử Blaziken

 

.Cũng mạnh vê lù đấy chứ .

 

Cho em hỏi tiếp:
1. Team của em còn 1 slot( đa số là Atk Sweeper). Vậy em nên để Sword Passer hay Entry Hazzard
2. Spikes theo từng cấp độ mà dam khác nhau vậy cho em bik số % dc ko ạ????
3. Sao em thấy Role Play là 1 skill copy Ability mà ko có moveset nào dùng hết vậy???

Vậy anh cho em moveset SP dc ko

 

1. Tất cả là Physical sweeper cả àh? Nên mix chứ!
2. Damage của spikes max ở level 3.

• Level 1: 12.5%
• Level 2: 18.75%
• Level 3: 25%

3. Role Play tương đối khó xài.
Thử nghĩ người ta dùng Role Play để copy ability nào gọi là có lợi xem? Mà có chắc là Ability đó luôn gặp không?
Tớ thì thấy Role Play được sử dụng nhiều trong các trận Tripe/Double Battle hơn.

Blaziken thì tớ không có kinh nghiệm lắm.
Thường thì dùng Ability là Speed Boost, move set đơn giản: Sword Dance, Baton Pass, Flare Blitz (hoặc Fire Punch), Hi Jump Kick (một số khác thì dùng Substitute thay thế).