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kingofkings123 · 11/4/22

this is cinema lâu lắm rồi mới có manga làm mình đọc hết từng chữ trong từng khung hình như này

iamlogan · 11/4/22

Đọc đi đọc lại thấy điên vl

riven2014 · 11/4/22

Dành cho ai đọc n lần vẫn ko hiểu thì hãy xem cmt phân tích bên reddit nhé

Interesting thing I've notice: when the MC mother asks him to film her, it was meant for the world to remember her. When Eri asks him to film her, it allowed for the next Eri to remember the MC.

The misdirection here is that it might seem like the film captures the previous eri with the intention of leaving a memory to the new eri but as the panels with their shared friend shown: the real eri is actually different from the panels we've read. Not to a huge extent, of course, but she was also on "camera". On the other hand, the one filming, writing and framing the movie is the MC who's off camera. There's an imprint, and one that is so genuine and distinct to a creator, that can never escape being embed into their own work. Which is why the new Eri's words were that the film is used to remember him and not the old Eri.

This runs in opposite with the mother and the general impression that the public have of biopic/documentaries: that we tend to believe it is an insight to the person on the screen but fail to realize that they too are on camera and is never themselves. Guess who is a lot more fixated, more so than the actors, and can be terribly obsessed during the process of a film? It's the person behind the camera: filming and directing the scene to the minute detail.

How and what we think of a movie character or a historical figure that we are watching in a documentary or biopic is steered by the one holding the camera, giving him the ability to control the narrative and our perception.

That was also the whole point of the father's conversation, that the MC framed her mother as nicer than she really is: to the point of being seen as kind even by his father. Remember: the truth of her mother as a person was a terrible one and her son was a victim. But precisely because of the framing and the shots he used( and not use), the entire truth was lost and a completely different story emerged. The fake bombing getting a backlash would not have worked so well if the scenes with the mother did not paint her as a good person so damn well.

But the clutch here is also the explosion at the end: the MC could not commit to her mother's vision. Because then he is not a filmmaker but rather just someone who film as ordered by someone, working for the vision of someone else. He knows that this version of her mother depicted is false and he knows that putting it out there like that feels wrong. That's why the explosion exists, because he wanted to make it interesting in his own way but also has a deeper meaning: you'll get what this movie is REALLY about with this scene. And underlying all that is to have someone, just someone, who notice what he truly wanted to say. And that was Eri.

I think fujimoto is trying to say and show (through the MC's idealised version of Eri) that the filmmaker and their depiction of the subject is several times more important, in fact it is the most important, aspect of a movie.

That was the legacy/memory he left behind that was truly his, which makes him want to live when he was on the brink of suicide. It didn't matter who Eri truly is moreso than it is important on how he depicted her. It's the same for any depiction: be it a retelling of a historical figure, a biopic on famous figures or any piece of film. The one who depicts, who edits, who films, is the one who shows you what they see rather than what it actually is.

But because the MC "failed" to see Eri as who she "actually" is, he had this underlying gut feeling that something was wrong and that he was missing a piece of the puzzle. That's why he spent years and years obsessed with editing the film because unlike the case with his mother, he did not know the whole truth about eri and thus felt the film as incomplete. His depiction was incomplete. He didn't realize it until he met the new eri again and I think that's why the explosion happened. The film is now complete because he knows the whole truth. His original "fantasy" was lacking because it was not a fantasy, Eri is really a vampire. He was able to rectify that with the explosion because now he knows the truth and his explosion became the true and only fantasy. Same as how his film of his mother ended with an explosion: because he knew the truth about her mother and was then able to insert a fantasy.

This cycle continues, someone else will watch this updated eri film and try to figure it out.. asking themselves "but why an explosion at the end?" Good films makes you think. Just like how Eri was able to get close to the truth of the relationship between the MC and his mother through his film. In a same way, the MC's film depicting Eri ask its audience the same. It makes them think and asks for their interpretation; the explosions don't just exist for the sake of it. In fact, the explosions turn the entire thing around (clue to the true nature and relationship with his mother, clue to the true nature of Eri: she really is a vampire).

Anyway tldr: The power of film is to tell stories but only certain filmmakers can tell certain stories in their own certain ways. How they tell them will not be lost even if they pass, as long as their films were created and watched by people.
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riven2014 · 11/4/22

iamlogan nói: ↑

Đọc đi đọc lại thấy điên vl
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Xem phân tích nhiều thì chung quy cũng có 2 luồng ý kiến sau

Eri: "...the way it blurred the line between fact and fiction, for me, that was a good puzzle."

1.Fact : Eri thật sự đã chết, main sau khi mất người thân, crush, và gia đình hiện tại (vợ và con) đã chán cuộc sống này và định quay lại nơi kỷ niệm khi xưa với Eri mà tự tử. Tình cờ coi lại bộ phim cũ năm xưa về Eri => giác ngộ => giải thoát , bắt đầu cuộc sống mới. Vụ nổ giống như việc cắt đứt ràng buộc của main với 1 sự kiện đau thương trong quá khứ để bước tiếp cuộc sống mới.

2. Fiction : Eri thật sự là ma ca rồng, từ đầu trang đầu tiên cho đến trang cuối cùng tất cả là 1 bộ phim do Eri muốn main làm ra kể về cuộc đời chính main mà thôi. Main và Eri vừa là đạo diễn, vừa là diễn viên và vừa là khán giả của bộ phim

iamlogan · 11/4/22

Sao nghi eri là mẹ main quá

riven2014 · 11/4/22

iamlogan nói: ↑

Sao nghi eri là mẹ main quá
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Cái này vô lý rồi, Eri nhờ main làm 1 bộ phim về chính cuộc đời nó. Việc mẹ nó xuất hiện từ đầu phim đến cuối phim và thể hiện cả 2 bản chất thiên thần và ác quỷ là quá đủ cho nhân vật đó rồi.

Eri thì khác, là người đã giúp main có động lực làm phim sau khi làm ra 1 video tệ hại trước đó mà trong cả bộ truyện diễn ra thì Eri luôn muốn nhấn mạnh cho main biết bộ phim sắp tới phải như thế nào, kết quả ra sao (kể về cuộc dời chính main trong đó Eri là ma ca rồng...)

Hakbit · 11/4/22

Làm oneshot đỉnh vcl, cái trước coi cũng đã thấy hay rồi...

urusei · 11/4/22

Style ông này dị dị mà đỉnh vl, phong cách mang tính điện ảnh.
So về mức độ thiên tài, không bàn về thể loại thì ~ với Mutara chứ không kém.

Evil Spirits · 12/4/22

Ông tác giả này mấy truyện của ổng mà được hãng ufo thầu làm anime thì đảm bảo max ngon.

The-Joker · 12/4/22

Anime gì chứ, live action luôn cũng được, giống mấy cái phim ngắn tham dự Orscar ấy

quocviet0908 · 12/4/22

Đm truyện đọc đã muốn điên đọc thêm cái giải thích kia xong tắt não cmnl.

riven2014 · 14/4/22

Eri lên màu đúng chất ma mị , nét vẽ đơn giản mà làm người đọc mê em nó vl. Best waifu sau Makima

iamlogan · 14/4/22

Đhs truyện lãi char nữ chỉ muốn simp vcl

tienlapro 1.0 · 14/4/22

riven2014 nói: ↑

Eri lên màu đúng chất ma mị , nét vẽ đơn giản mà làm người đọc mê em nó vl. Best waifu sau Makima

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Rồi mang cặp mắt kiếng với cái niềng răng vào nữa pạn ơi

Duel · 19/4/22

Đọc xong oneshot, youtube nó recommend clip tác giả tập bay, bỉ vl.

KNIGHT Light · 20/6/22

https://twitter.com/CHAINSAWMAN_PR/status/1538809127589359617
Thông báo chính thức: Phần 2 của truyện Chainsaw Man sẽ bắt đầu vào ngày 13 tháng 7 trên Shonen Jump+.

The-Joker · 20/6/22

Kinh thánh đã trở lại
Hóng main nữ mới nào
Tác giả giết sạch gái đẹp phần 1 rồi

Namguild 2 · 20/6/22

Chainsaw Man ko đc lòng bọn Jump tạp chí chính à.

RickBe · 20/6/22

CSM được mua bản quyền ở vn, sắp ra mắt thì cũng ngon đó.

The-Joker · 21/6/22

Namguild 2 nói: ↑

Chainsaw Man ko đc lòng bọn Jump tạp chí chính à.
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Máu me, nudity, sex, tôn giáo ... Như Berserk thì ở lại shounen jump làm gì cho phí tiềm năng

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