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    Note: Please refer to the post below for clarifications on how this list is derived and FAQ.

    This list is last updated on 22th Apr 2017

    Legendary Level (武林神话)– Omnipotent, Invincible & Godlike.

    Sweeper Monk (TL)
    Dugu Qiubai (RO / XAJH) – Speculation. He is considerably better than Dong Fang Bu Bai.

    Possible Candidates:
    These are extremely speculative, distant background characters that do not appear directly in the Novels. They are added purely for fun and strictly speaking should not be considered in this chart.
    - Damo Founder
    - Creator of Kuihua Baodian
    - Murong Longcheng (Creator of Dou Zhuan Xin Yi)
    - Xiaoyao Zi, Founder of Xiaoyao Sect


    Level 90 (登峰造极)– The pinnacle of martial arts and perfection!

    LV 90: Xu Zhu (TL)
    LV 90: Shi Po Tian (XKX)

    LV 87: Tian Shan Tong Lao (TL) - She is stronger than Li Qiu Shui at full power.
    LV 86: Wu Ya Zi (TL)
    LV 85: Li Qiu Shui (TL)
    LV 85: Duan Yu (TL)
    LV 85: Dongfang Bu Bai (XA)

    LV 85: Huang Shang, Creator of Jiuyin (LO) – Speculation.


    Level 80 (绝世高手)- Only the strongest characters in all of Jinyong Novels reaches here.

    LV 80: Xiao Feng (TL) - Skillset/Internal at LV75. His unmatched "fighting god" ability brings him to 80.
    LV 80: Murong Bo (TL)
    LV 80: Xiao Yuan Shan (TL)

    LV 80: Yang Guo (RO) - Without Heavy Iron Sword. [Happy State: -1LV, Sorrow State: +1LV]

    LV 80: Guo Jing (RO) - Post 16 Years. Speculation.
    LV 80: Feng Qing Yang (XA) - Speculation. Stronger than Ren Wo Xing. Lower limit LV75, upper limit unknown.
    LV 80: Lin Yuan Tu (XA) - Speculation. He can range from LV75 to LV85.

    LV 78: Wang Chong Yang (LO) – It is logically impossible for him to be at this LV at the time of his death. He is placed here because it is always the Author Intention for him to slightly stronger than the 4 Greats at all point of time.

    LV 77: Zhou Botong (RO) - Pre & Post 16 Years.
    LV 77: Jinlun Fawang (RO) - Post 16 Years.
    LV 77: Jiu Mo Zhi (TL)
    LV 77: Zhang San Feng (YT) - Mainly due to his old age.
    LV 77: Zhang Wu Ji (YT)

    LV 76: Guo Jing (RO) - Pre 16 Years.


    Level 75 (绝顶高手)- The "4 Greats" Level.

    LV 75: East Heretic, Huang Yao Shi (RO) - Pre & Post 16 Years.
    LV 75: South Emperor, Yideng (RO) - Pre & Post 16 Years.
    LV 75: West Venom, Ouyang Feng (RO)
    LV 75: North Beggar, Hong Qi Gong (RO)
    LV 75: Yang Guo - Pre 16 years, using Heavy Iron Sword.

    LV 75: Guo Xiang (YT) – Speculation of highest level reached.

    LV 72: Qiu Qian Ren / Ci En (RO) - Both Pre & Post 16 Years.
    LV 72: Fang Zheng (XA)
    LV 72: Lord Long/Mu of Xia Ke Island (XKX)
    LV 72: Zhou Bo Tong (LO) - After he was "enlightened" by Guo Jing.
    LV 72: Ouyang Feng (LO) - At 2nd Mt Hua after he becomes crazy.

    LV 72: Yellow Dressed Girl, Lady Yang - Speculation.


    Level 70 – The "Sub-Greats" or "LOCH Greats" Level

    LV 70: East Heretic, Huang Yao Shi (LO)
    LV 70: South Emperor, Yideng (LO)
    LV 70: North Beggar, Hong Qi Gong (LO)

    LV 70: Xiao Long Nu (RO) – After learning Left/Right Technique
    LV 70: Jinlun Fawang (RO) - Pre 16 years. His Internal is worthy of LV75.
    LV 70: Ren Wo Xing (XA)

    LV 70: Lin Chao Ying (LO) - At first Mount Hua. Speculation.
    LV 70: Yang Ding Tian (YT) - Speculation. He defeated Du E 10 years prior to story.

    LV 69: Ling Hu Chong (XA) - VS Sword-Using Opponents Only. LV60 VS Non Sword-Using Opponents. See FAQ.

    LV 68: Zhang Wu Ji (YT) - At battle against 6 righteous sects on Bright Peak.


    LV 67: Qiu Qian Ren (LO)
    LV 66: Chong Xu (XA)


    Level 65 – Upper tier Elites. Extremely powerful characters that rarely meet his match.

    LV 65: Duan Zheng Ming (TL)
    LV 65: Duan Yan Qing (TL)
    LV 65: Reverend Huangmei (TL)
    LV 65: Xuan Ci, Shaolin Abbot (TL)
    LV 65: Yue Bu Qun (XA) - After Learning Bixie
    LV 65: Zhang San / Li Si (XKX)
    LV 65: Du E/Du Jie/Du Nan (YT) - Range From LV65 to LV62 (Strongest To Weakest)
    LV 65: Guo Jing (LO) - At the end of LOCH.

    LV 65: Zhou Bo Tong (LO) - Before he was "enlightened" by Guo Jing on Peach Blossom Island.

    LV 64: Zuo Leng Chan (XA) – Before Blinded
    LV 62: Ding Chun Qiu (TL)
    LV 62: Xiang Wen Tian (XA)
    LV 62: Divine Condor, Shen Diao (RO)


    Level 60 – Mid tier Elites. Considered top tier in General Wulin.

    LV 60: Murong Fu (TL)
    LV 60: You Tan Zhi (TL)
    LV 60: Sword God Zhuo Bu Fan (TL)
    LV 60: Huang Rong (RO) - Full Health, Non Pregnant State.
    LV 60: Cheng Kun (YT) – Before Blinded.
    LV 60: Two Demons of Hejian, Bu Tai and Hao Mi (YT)
    LV 60: Fang Sheng (XA)

    LV 60: He Zu Dao (YT) – Estimation, dead before story.
    LV 60: Zhang Wu Ji (YT) - Upon mastering 9Yang and leaving scheduled valley.

    LV 58: Guo Jing (LO) - After enlightened by Great Dipper during Begger's Meet.
    LV 58: Xie Yan Ke (XKX)


    Level 55 – Lower tier Elites. Considered top tier in General Wulin.
    1) Gongsun Chi (RO)
    2) Yang Xiao (YT)
    3) Fan Yao (YT)
    4) Lin Ping Zhi (XAJH) - After learning Bixie but before blinded.
    5) Bai Zi Zai (XKX)

    LV 55: Xuan Ming Elders (YT) – Their Xuan Ming poison palms, if connected, is particularly devastating [+10LV] against opponents without strong Yang energy to dissipate.
    LV 55: Kong Xiang (YT)

    LV54: Ah Da (YT)
    LV52: Ah Er (YT)
    LV51: Ah San (YT)


    Level 50 – Upper tier experts in Jinyong Main Novels.

    1) White Eagle, Yin Tian Zheng (YT)
    2) Green Bat, Wei Yi Xiao (YT)
    3) Golden Lion, Xie Xun (YT)
    4) Mie Jue (YT) - Using the Heavenly Sword.
    5) Nimo Xing (RO)
    6) Yin Kexin (RO)
    7) Xiao Xiangzi (RO)
    8) Bujie Monk (XA)

    Plum Manor, 4 Friends of JiangNan
    LV 58: 1st Brother Huang Zhonggong (XA)
    LV 55: 2nd Brother Hei Bai Zi (XA)
    LV 42: 3rd Brother Tu Bi Weng (XA)
    LV 40: 4th Brother Dan Qing Sheng (XA)

    4 Divine Monks of Shaolin
    LV 56: Kong Jian (YT) – Strongest of 4 Divine Monks. Died to Xie Xun’s trickery.
    LV 50: Kong Wen (YT) – Abbot of Shaolin
    LV 48: Kong Zhi (YT) – Lost to White Eagle Guardian at Battle of Bright Peak.
    LV 46: Kong Xing (YT) – Practiced Dragon Claws Skill. Slayed by Ah San.

    LV 48: Ding Bu Si (XKX)
    LV 48: Ding Bu San (XKX)
    LV 48: Bei Hai Shi (XKX)
    LV 48: Li Mo Chou (RO)

    LV 46: Guo Jing (LO) - After learning from Zhou Botong at Peach Blossom Island.


    Level 45 – Lower tier experts in Jinyong Main Novels.

    1) Purple Dragon, Zi Sha Long Wang / Jin Hua Popo (YT)
    2) Duan Zheng Chun (TL)
    3) Ying Gu (RO)
    4) Shi Qing (XKX)
    5) Min Rou (XKX)
    6) Bai Wan Jian (XKX)
    7) QZ 2nd Gen Elders (RO) - Range From Qiu Chu Ji (LV50), Ma Yu, Wang Chu Yi to Sun Bu Er (LV36)
    8) Mei Chaofeng (LO) – Blinded, at battle against QZ 7 Priests

    LV 45: Feng Bu Ping (XA)
    LV 45: Xiao Long Nu (RO) - Before Learning Left-Right Technique

    LV 44: Mo Da (XA)

    LV 42: Wudang 7 Swordmen (YT) - Strongest Yu Lian Zhou/Song Yuan Qiao (LV46) to Weakest Mo Shenggu (LV38). Wudang 3rd Swordmen is cripple and excluded.
    LV 42: Yue Bu Qun (XA) – Pre Bixie Swordplay
    LV 42: Ouyang Ke (LO) - Before crippled.
    LV 42: Feng Mo Feng (RO) - Crippled
    LV 42: Daerba (RO) - At Martial Art meet
    LV 42: Yang Guo (RO) - Before losing his arm.


    Level 40 – Seasoned pugilists and leaders of small sects

    1) Yun Zhong He (TL)
    2) Ye Er Niang (TL)
    3) Yue Lao San (TL)
    4) Murong Fu 4 Followers (TL)
    5) Yideng Disciples (RO) - Range from Zhu Zi Liu (LV48), Diancang Yuyin to Wu Santong (LV40)
    6) Huo Du (RO) – At Marital Art Meet
    7) Zhou Zhi Ruo (YT) - After learning Jiu Yin Bai Gu Zhua
    8) He Tai Chong, Kunlun Leader (YT)
    9) Ren Ying Ying (XA)
    10) 10 Elders of Sun Moon Cult (XA)
    11) Liu Zheng Feng, Tianmen Dao Ren (XA)
    12) Qu Yang (XA)
    13) Taogu 6 Immortals (XA)
    14) Qiu Chu Ji, Ma Yu, Wang Chu Yi (LO) - LV41,40,39 respectively.
    15) Ying Gu (LO)
    16) Jiu Nan (LDJ)

    LV 40: Hong An Tong (LDJ)

    LV 40: Dali 4 Servants (TL)
    LV 40: Guo Jing (LO) - Right after learning full set of 18 Dragon Palms
    LV 40: Yelu Qi (RO) - Post 16 years

    LV 36: Yu Cang Hai (XA)
    LV 36: Mu Gao Feng (XA)
    LV 36: Ding Yi, Ding Xian (XA)


    Level 35 – Seasoned Pugilist. Medicore in Song Dynasty, Top Tier in Qing Dynasty

    1) All the other 2nd generation Quanzhen Disciples (LO)
    2) Ao Bai (LDJ)
    3) Chen Jin Nan (LDJ)
    4) Feng Xi Fan (LDJ)
    5) Hu Yi Dao (XSFH)
    6) Miao Fan Tian (XSFH)
    7) Tian Bo Guang (XA)
    8) Zhong Wan Chou (TL)

    LV 35: Ning Zhong Ze (XA) - Yue Bu Qun's wife.

    LV 34: Guo Jing (LO) - After Hong Qi Gong taught him 15 Dragon Palms.
    LV 32: Huang Rong (LO) - After first meeting with Hong Qi Gong (learnt Xiaoyao Fists)

    LV 32: Lingzhi Shangren (LO)
    LV 32: Liang Ziweng (LO)
    LV 32: Lu You Jiao (RO)
    LV 32: Lao De Nuo (XA)


    Level 30 - Weak in Song Dynasty, Elite in Qing Dynasty

    LV 30: Sha Tong Tian (LO)
    LV 30: Yue Ling Shan (XA)- After learning secret arts in Mt Hua Cave.

    LV 28: Yelu Qi (RO) - Pre 16 Years

    LV 26: Song Qing Shu (YT)
    LV 26: Yang Kang (LO)


    Level 25 - Weak in Song Dynasty, Strong in Qing Dynasty. Most of Jinyong Heroes Starts Their Wulin Journey Here.

    LV 25: Cheng Ying (RO) - Pre 16 Years
    LV 25: Guo Fu, Wu Brothers (RO) - Post 16 years.
    LV 25: Yang Guo (RO) - When he first left Ancient Tomb (Before Mt. Hua)
    LV 25: Sha Gu (LO)
    LV 25: Ke Zhen E (LO)
    LV 25: Hai Dafu (LDJ)
    LV 25: Ah Zi (TL)
    LV 25: Most of Duan Zheng Chun's wives (TL) - Qin Hong Mian, Dao Bai Feng
    LV 25: Ling Hu Chong (XA) - At start of novel
    LV 25: Yin Su Su (YT)
    LV 25: Zhao Min, Zhu'er (YT)

    LV 22: Guo Jing, Huang Rong (LO) - When they first met each other


    Level 20 - Trash Tier. Very Weak in Song Dynasty, Mediocre in Qing Dynasty

    LV 20: Ma Guang Zuo (RO)
    LV 20: Lu Wu Shuang (RO) - Pre 16 Years
    LV 20: Most Hall Leaders of Qing Mu Tang (LDJ)
    LV 20: Su Quan (LDJ)

    LV 12-16: 7 Freaks of JiangNan (LO) - Except Ke Zhen E


    Level 15 - Can take on a handful of trained soldiers/underlings.

    LV 15: Zhao ZhiJing, Zhen Zhibing (RO)
    LV 15: Shuang Er (LDJ)
    LV 15: Lin Zhen Nan (XA)
    LV 15: Mu Nian Ci (LO)
    LV 15: Ah Zhu (TL)
    LV 15: Mu Wan Qing (TL)
    LV 15: Yue Ling Shan (XA) - Before learning secret arts in Mt Hua Cave.


    Level 10 - Have the most basic of martial arts. Can take on a few soldiers.

    LV 10: Zhong Ling (TL)

    LV 10: Guo Fu, Wu Brothers (RO) - Pre 16 years.

    LV 8: Huanghe 4 Ghosts (LO)
    LV 8: Yang Tie Xin (LO), Guo Xiao Tian (LO)
    LV 8: Lin Ping Zhi (XA) - Pre Bixie.
    LV 8: Most of Wei Xiao Bao's wives (LDJ) - Ah Ke, Zeng Rou, Fang Yi, Mu Jian Ping


    Level 5 - Disciples, Followers, Underlings, Soldiers

    Majority of unimportant/no-name sect disciples, followers, underlings (小喽啰) will fall in here.

    LV 3: Possible characters include Xu Zhu (TL), Yi Lin (XA) at start of novel
    LV 1-2: Armed Guard / Trained Soldier


    Special Category - Formations & Teamwork

    Xiao Long Nu (LV45) + Yang Guo (LV42) = LV75 [玉女素心剑法 Jade Maiden Swordplay]
    7 LOCH Quanzhen Disciples (LV35-41) = LV70 [天罡北斗阵 Big Dipper Formation]
    3 Du Monks (LV62 – LV65) = LV80 [金刚伏魔圈: Telepathic and Buddhism Power]

    7 Wudang Heroes (LV38-LV46) = LV90 [真武七截阵] - Speculation

    LEVEL GUIDELINES

    Here is the guideline to follow. If character A is X level above B...

    1 Lv Difference - The difference is minuscule and A is only perceived to be very slightly stronger. In a fight to death, either of them may win, or possibly both may perish.

    Example: Yang Guo VS Zhou Bo Tong

    2, 3 LV Difference - The difference is still extremely narrow. A would probably win, but only after an extremely long and arduous battle (possibly >1000+ exchange). It would take a lot out of A (exhaust all his energy/stamina) to win this battle.

    Example: 4 Greats VS Qiu Qian Ren

    5 LV Difference - The difference is wide enough now that A would most definitely win, provided A fight seriously and not let down his guard. B can still give a very good challenge.

    Example: LOCH Great vs LOCH Guo Jing

    10 LV Difference - At this point, A should be able to defeat B with relatively ease (likely within 100 exchange). There is almost no chance of B winning. However, A still need to exhaust considerable attention/energy/stamina to deal with B.

    15 LV Difference - Similar to a 10LV difference, but now A would be able to defeat B with even less effort and likely much quicker (within 50 exchange). There is no conceivable chance of B ever winning.

    20 LV Difference, and Beyond - Depending on the martial arts used, it's possible for A to defeat B in one hit, or within several blows. B has no chance of winning. Beyond this point there should be no noticeable difference in the fight - it would just mean that A would need to utilize less percent of his power to win.


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    BASIS OF RANKING & DEALING WITH INCONSISTENCIES
    This chart is base solely on Jinyong original novel only. Adaptions are not taken into account. It takes into consideration the "fighting capability", in other words "the ability to battle another opponent" only.

    Taken Into Account
    - Physical Attributes (Being blind, crippled, etc...)
    - Age (A character base progression of deeper internal as he age could be offset by corresponding fall in stamina after around 70)
    - Author narrative (What is described according to the author)
    - Actual Performance (What actually happens in the story such as feats and battle against other opponents)
    - Skillset, internal, technique, lightness skill and speed (including martial arts cultivation/knowledge)
    - Battle experience
    - Combat Intelligence (knows how to deploy different martial technique to deal with different opponents)
    - Weapon (If a character primarily fights using one)

    There are several instance where the author narrative and a character actual performance differs greatly - most notable in Qiu Qian Ren and Jinlun Fawang case. For example:

    1. Based on author narrative - We could rank Qiu Qian Ren 1 LV below the 4 Great.
    2. Based on actual performance - We could rank Qiu Qian Ren 5 to 8 LV below the 4 Greats.

    Worst still, there are inconsistencies within each evidence type (e.g. XM elder "1-Hit" KO Yang Xiao during their appearance, but was later proved to be not much better than the left/right envoy). This chart try its best to incorporate all the above to derive a fair value.

    When actual performance and author narrative contradict each other, more weight-age (70%) is given to actual performance. (e.g. GWM and QQR). When actual performance differs in different battles, we try to consider all battles equally. More weight-age is given to 1v1 battle. (e.g. XF failure to beat MRF+YTZ does not drop his LV).

    Not Taken Into Account
    - Potential (We only rank base on strongest point in the novel, not what could be in the future. Unless stated as speculation)
    - Character Traits (e.g. Benevolence)
    - Non combat intelligence (e.g. charisma, seduction, able to talk his way out of things, ability to escape)

    It's sometimes difficult to exclude character traits. Hence, we rank the character assuming it's a "fight to the death". The level of the character is when he is under the state where he "has to defeat/kill his opponent" (E.g. Duan Yu defending WYY with his life, not a situation when his skill would fail).

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    GENERAL FAQ

    - Character levels listed are at their MOST POWERFUL POINT IN THE NOVEL (Usually the End), unless otherwise stated. Weapons are not counted except when stated. The exception is when the character fights primarily with weapon (e.g those from XAJH)

    - This Chart is targeted at 1 VS 1. Its accuracy is greatly diminish for handicap matches (1v2, 1v3) as too many factors would come into play. (Swordplay, Skills Compatibility, Formation, etc) It can still be used as a guide though - A character should be able to 1v2 persons 15LV lower (Notable exception: Xiao Feng failure to defeat Murong Fu + You Tan Zhi)

    - In actual combat, there are always more factors involved: environmental (dark cave more advantageous for blind), distraction, underestimation of opponent, inability to focus, being poison, low confidence will all affect a character fighting capability. Therefore, A slightly weaker character (LV 1 - LV5) would not always lose. Of course, if the difference is overwhelming (>10 LV), the character will still lose.

    - Level units are not "equal" throughout - The difference from LV70 to LV75 is GREATER than the difference from LV30 to LV35. In RPG terms, it simply means you need more experience to progress to the next at higher levels. This is to stimulate the "plateau effect" of martial arts, and to prevent the upper tier characters from getting into ridiculous Levels. In other words, the higher LV you go, the more difficult it becomes to "level up".

    - The list started out from the ROCH Greats Level (which defaults to 75). The comparisons started and expanded gradually from there. The main tiers of skill levels are: Legendary -> Great -> Elite -> Expert -> Seasoned -> Novice

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    About 1 Hit Kill
    Even if 2 characters has a insanely wide difference, it doesn't means that one will definitely KO the other in ONE hit. There are too many variables here at play, in particular different fighting styles (some are more aggressive/power based, some are more technique based, some uses speed/agility, etc)

    One hit KO could make sense for chars using "high power" arts like H7G XL18Z. Can a Quanzhen Elder (40 LV diff) take on a full-power XL18Z from him? No.

    Now let's imagine a QZ Elder against HYS, who choose to use some 'fancier' palms techniques (Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang). Or picture the QZ Elder against HQG, this time using Dog Beating Skill instead. The Great strikes a couple of times, and it's not inconceivable that a QZ elder could dodge/block with sword, and hold on for a few stances. Dog Beating Skill isn't the same 'raw power' technique like XL18Z, and likely can't explode your target in 1 hit.

    Against someone like DFBB who focuses on speed, a 20 LV difference might not mean that the other guy is going to get kill in 1 blow, since again DFBB doesn't use raw high power blasts. Z3F can one-hit a Xuanming Elder if they clash palms, but if he uses Taiji Sword VS Ah Da, the fight will probably last much longer than 1 stance.

    Finally, there are cases where a character just have extraordinary defensive techniques. For example, Duan Yu could be say at LV10 after learning Lingbo Weibu. However, LV40 Yue Lao San can't hit him at all. And probably even LV80 XF can't hit him.

    Are we going to argue that their difference is less than 20LVs because of this? Obviously no. In this case, the better way to read it would be: DY have zero chance of defeating XF at that point in the novel.

    The skills YingGu practiced have some "defensive properties" too, so it doesn't mean that her difference with Fawang is less than 20.

    Power Utilization
    Another point we should consider is if the difference is huge, a character usually doesn't give his all. E.g. HYS may only use 10% of internal when he's fighting against 7 Freaks. When a fight starts, characters usually doesn't go 100% right away. They power up slowly and just utilize whatever is sufficient to defeat his opponent.

    Hence, there will definitely be many instances in novels where the difference is insanely huge but somehow the Great doesn't kill the weaker character in 1 blow, or take much longer than usual. (e.g. ZWJ vs ZZR)

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    COMMONLY DISPUTED CHARACTERS AND JUSTIFICATION
    This section list the commonly disputed characters, and the most important reason/argument for placing them at that rank. To nerf/buff any of these characters, you should directly attack these points.

    Dong Fang Bu Bai [LV85]
    - From his ability to toy with RWX + LHC +XWT, he should be rank ~15 LVs above RWX.
    - Already 2nd/3rd strongest in Sun Moon Sect (i.e. already top tier fighter in Wulin) even prior to learning Kui Hua Bao Dian
    - Characters with mere months in the art became extremely strong. He practiced it for 20+ years.

    Yang Guo [LV80]
    - Final battle, he was winning against GWM even in his happy state.

    Golden Wheel Monk, Post 16 Years [LV77]
    - He proved himself to be capable of defeating Yideng.

    Zhang San Feng [LV77]
    - By his own estimation at age 100, he did not believe he quite reached the LV of Yang Guo and Guo Jing when he met them 80 years ago.
    - His martial arts cultivation might be higher, but his fighting capability could be limit by his age.

    Zhang Wu Ji [LV77]
    - His internal is comparable to Zhang San Feng, Guo Jing & Yang Guo.
    - Possess Great LV external skillset
    - He frequently perform below this LV due to his “good guy” character.

    Fang Zheng [LV 72]
    - Decades of cultivation in Yi Jin Jing, 1 of the best internal art in JY Universe. It states specifically that this copy of Yi Jin Jing has been safely kept with Shaolin for hundreds of years, and never imparted to outsiders. There is no indication this is a weaker (or far weaker) version than the Yi Jin Jing (which propelled You Tan Zhi to Elite LV) in DGSD.
    - Aside from Dong Fang Bu Bai/Feng Qing Yang, he is number 1 in the Wulin and can be considered as Great LV.

    Ren Wo Xing [LV70]
    - There is no indication that the LV of martial arts (including internal) in SPW is weaker than the Condor Trilogy. These feats including writing on wood (by Fang Zheng), erasing footprints on concrete (by Xiang Wen Tian)
    - He is slightly weaker than Fang Zheng.

    Linghu Chong [LV69 against sword, LV60 against others]
    - Linghu Chong is only well-versed in the Sword Breaking Stance and is relatively untrained in the other 8. Feng Qing Yang state that he would need another 20 years to perfect the "Qi Breaking Stance" in order to fight with the true greats of the martial arts world.
    - Linghu Chong was knocked unconscious by the sheer force of Ren Wo Xing's roar, and would lose to anyone with high internal. He himself taught that he would lose badly to Fang Zheng as he didn’t know Qi breaking stance nor Palm breaking stance.

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    5 Main Novels
    XA – Xiao Ao Jiang Hu
    TL – Tian Long Ba Bu
    LO – She Diao Ying Xiong Zhuan
    RO – Shen Diao Xia Lu
    YT – Yi Tian Tu Long Ji

    Others
    XKX - Xia Ke Xing
    LDJ – Lu Ding Ji
    XSFH – Xue Shan Fei Hu

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    hôm nay máu me quá nhỉ, vào thớt nào cũng thấy có máu, haiz.
     
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    nhìn tên éo biết ai với ai Xu Zhu là từ thứ à :-(||>
     
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    clgt có cả tam quốc chí ???
     
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    Hư Trúc
     
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    Hư trúc nhé :)
     
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    Biết thiên sơn đồng lão, hư trúc, đông phương, lão tăng vô danh, độc cô cầu bại. Hết rồi.
     
  13. Lezard.V

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    18/10/08
    Bài viết:
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    Nơi ở:
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    Tế bạn oyyyy :9cool_haha:
     
  16. TuDragon76

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    Tham gia ngày:
    9/6/02
    Bài viết:
    6,144
    Nơi ở:
    HCMC
    Mạn phép đoán mò :

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    Dugu Qiubai : Độc Cô Cầu Bại
    Damo Founder : Đạt Ma Tổ Sư
    Creator of Kuihua Baodian : tác giả Quỳ Hoa Bảo Điển
    Murong Longcheng (Creator of Dou Zhuan Xin Yi) : éo biết, Mộ Dung gì đó
    Xiaoyao Zi, Founder of Xiaoyao Sect : Tiêu Dao Tử
    Xu Zhu (TL) : Hư Trúc, thật ra ban đầu cũng nghĩ không ra, nhờ quý vị ở trên khai ngộ
    Shi Po Tian (XKX) : éo biết
    Tian Shan Tong Lao (TL) - She is stronger than Li Qiu Shui at full power : Thiên Sơn Đồng Lão
    Wu Ya Zi (TL) : Cưu Ma Trí
    Li Qiu Shui (TL) : Lý Thu Thuỷ
    Duan Yu (TL) : Đoàn Dự
    Dongfang Bu Bai (XA) : Đông Phương Bất Bại
    Huang Shang, Creator of Jiuyin (LO) – Speculation : Hoàng Thường
    Xiao Feng (TL) - Skillset/Internal at LV75. His unmatched "fighting god" ability brings him to 80 : Tiêu Phong
    Murong Bo (TL) : Mộ Dung Bác

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    Tham gia ngày:
    7/7/08
    Bài viết:
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    Hình như là Thạch Phá Thiên
     
    TuDragon76 thích bài này.
  19. TuDragon76

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    Tham gia ngày:
    9/6/02
    Bài viết:
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    Nơi ở:
    HCMC
    Đờ mờ =)) Nếu là anh Cẩu Tạp Chủng thì mời anh leo lên top ngồi, đíu có ai so với anh được đâu =)) May ra cụ Tăng đập được anh
     
  20. [H]eart

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    Thạch phá thiên trên kèo all,may ra đạt ma thì còn cân đc.
     

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