Thảo luận Dissidia Final Fantasy, Duodecim (demo) - Chờ ngày phát hành (3/3/2011)

@alucard: Gilgamesh có mặt từ FFI rồi bạn (boss phụ trong dungeon) và có thể nói là đã xuất hiện trong rất nhiều phiên bản FF, nhưng trong FFV Gilgamesh là tay sai cực kì đắc lực của Exdeath, và có một vai trò khá quan trọng trong cốt chuyện của FFV, nên việc đưa Gilgamesh vào đại diện cho FFV và bổ xung cho phe Chaos cũng là 1 cái hay Gilgamesh có phong cách chiến đấu khá hề nữa, nhất là cái vụ Excalibur và Excalipoor Hơn nữa, còn 1 điều Tonny có thể chắc chắn: Artwork của Gilgamesh thay đổi qua từng phiên bản, nhưng artwork của Gilgamesh trong DDFF là Original artwork của Gilgamesh trong FFV. Cộng cả cái CG cutscene đó nên Tonny nghĩ Gilgamesh sẽ đại diện cho FFV, và không có thêm nv nào từ FFV nữa

Btw, cả Gilgamesh và Prishe đều là playable character ~^.^~ nhìn Ex Burst to đùng kìa ~^.^~

 

nhỡ ko phải là Vaan với Tina chạy cùng nhau mà là lúc đó Tina đang đuổi theo Vaan thì sao

ừ, HP attack tốc độ tăng lên (như của thằng kain có đòn thọc khá mạnh). Nhưng thế này chỉ tổ làm tệ nạn spam trầm trọng thêm, có lẽ nên để luật cấm spam HP attack suốt cả trận chăng? xem trận này sẽ rõ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cejrDMgh5do&feature=feedu

đấy là mới Story Demo thôi, trong game biết đâu sẽ có khả năng switch giữa main char và assist.
mà trong Arcade mode, WoL có cái look thứ 3 là Fighter gốc trong FFI nhìn khác hẳn bảo đảm cái look này sẽ ko đc dùng trong story

 

Anh cũng cảnh cáo trước là nếu đánh me thì đừng trách anh chơi khắc chế toàn tập , nhân đạo lắm rồi khi anh xài ring holy đấy

 

@hồi chiều vừa clear Hard mode = Sephiroth. Được quả Hell's Gate con Bartz level 60 từ nóc map The Rift xuống Banish trap đã không tả được nhớ lại bữa trước cũng có quả Kain xọc Cloud từ nóc map Old Chaos Shrine xuống sàn sướng quá
@arthas: giời ạ, người ta cầm tay nhau tình cảm thế cơ mà

 

hôm nay off Tina và Cod thua Arthas nhiều quá .

chẳng hiểu sao hôm nay không còn chút chiến ý nào ...

lao đầu đánh bừa bãi không nghĩ gì hết .

 

Hôm nay a cũng thua nhiều ..Do vừa đọc xong bộ truyện nên bị stun...đánh mà tâm trí cứ tưởng nhớ về bộ truyện đó. Hic

 

@Nostis: truyện gì ế cho Tonny đọc với
@Emerald: thư giãn

 

À...đó là truyện "ám hành ngự sử " 1 manhwa rất nổi tiếng.

 

ghét nhất thằng khốn Ajite ::( cơ mà truyện này nhiều lúc đọc hơi khó hiểu >.< Hồi trước Tonny đọc cả bộ = tiếng việt không biết lúc cuối cái cô gọi đội quân nữ kia có die không nhỉ (hình như có, bị Ajite "hóa Chaos" giết luôn rồi ) kết thúc chuyện hơi buồn, không biết có nên gọi là có hậu không nữa

 

Cô đó chỉ là nhân vật phụ thôi..chỉ có 1 vài cảnh -- Mà Ajite chính là tên yêu quái bị phong ấn mà "hoàng thượng" hồi còn bé giải thoát vì muốn ước mình được lên làm hoàng đế
Truyện này tớ đọc thấy buồn thảm đau thương quá...Nhất là câu chuyện tình của Munsu và Hwang.

 

đoạn đó thì hiểu ý, nhưng còn một số cái khác ở phần giữa câu chuyện hơi lằng nhằng rắc rối >.< cách giải quyết cho Munsu chết là hợp lí đấy, tớ lại thấy thế :) ít ra 2 người đó vẫn gặp lại được nhau (ở thế giới bên kia), cũng có thể coi là kết cục không quá thê thảm :) không biết cuối cùng cô bé vệ sĩ của Munsu đi đâu nhỉ

chết off topic quá, thật xin lỗi cả nhà

 

có thể trailer sẽ là đoạn đánh để giải cứu cho các char bị tẩy não chăng? và chỉ cứu đc mỗi tina,để ý là trong trận chiến tina xài 2 custume.k biết có phải thế k nữa

 

Cũng chưa hẳn...có thể Terra bị bắt theo chaos vì 1 lý do nào đó thì sao?



Vừa đọc hết tiếp 1 bộ truyện nữa...giờ đây ăn stun + dồn rồi

 

abc cái con , hình như tui bằng tuổi ông đấy nhá

@Tony : thư giãn sao đc , chỉ sợ hôm tới off khiến Tony thất vọng thôi !
mình mất hết sức mạnh rồi hay sao đấy .

 

@Emerald: không vấn đề gì, thắng thua là chuyện thường tình, quân tử páo chù 10 năm chưa muộn Tonny cũng bận lắm nên ít luyện tập, chỉ sợ Emerald mới là người thất vọng thôi >.< dạo nì đang bảo tồn PSP để chờ 012 nữa ::( máy tã lắm rồi

 

he he .
mình không thất vọng đâu , mình muốn đánh cùng Tony , nhớ từ hồi mới tham gia đã muốn đọ kiếm cùng Tony .

defeat the final boss Tonywin , and the game is over .

 

-Các FF I,II,III sẽ ko có nhận vật mới,bạn quên là Nomura nói chỉ còn nhân vật từ hệ máy SNES trờ lên thôi sao với lại II và III đã xác định có sân mới rồi.Ko biết FF I có ko nhỉ vì nếu tình cái World map=Stage thì hơi kì kì ^^ FFIX cũng đã xác nhận sân mới,nếu giả thuyết New Stage=No new Character thì IX sẽ ko có nhân vật nào nữa.Giờ mình chỉ trông đợi VI nếu nó confirm sân Phantom Train/Forest thì ôi Celes của mình

*Giờ là đến Aerith của mình


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Dissidia 012 Duodecim Prologus - Story Mode
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs224D26kJ0&feature=player_embedded)

The 12th Battle

Unknown Partners

*Lightning's narration*
A world where the battle of gods unfolds.
Two deities ruling the balance and discord summoned those who lived in other worlds to fight for them. Those summoned, having lost their memories and ways to go back, had no other choice but to serve the god that summoned them. So did I, when I awoke beside the Goddess of Harmony. It was a world where we could only fight. If so, then the remaining possibilities are achieved by victory. Believing so, I decided to join the battle of gods.

Jecht: Hey, uh... Lightning, was it?
Light: What is it?
Jecht: Don't be so unfriendly. We're here not because we wanted to.
Light: So people should annoy strangers just because they're here not of their free will?
Jecht: Well, he may be not all that wrong.
Light: You're Jecht, right? So you're saying, that I am wrong?
Jecht: Hey, don't get angry. Right? Uh...
Kain: I'm Kain.
Jecht: Yeah. Say something. This kind of a start isn't good at all, right?
Kain: Lightning, in a way you're right. We still don't know each other's powers. No cooperation or trust will be born here this way. Then how about you act together with him and see his skills for yourself.
Light: Huh?
Jecht: Hey, that sure sounds fun and everything, but...
Kain: If something happens, we'll cut in. And this will create a chance to see who is superior in battle.
Jecht: "We"? You're counting me in too?
Light: Don't decide for others. I don't remember teaming up with you.
Kain: Does that mean you don't have confidence to be tested? Well, I just don't know whether you're strong enough to oppose. I want to see your strength.
WoL: Be on guard! The enemy is coming!

Garland: You're quite carefree, warriors of Cosmos. Forgot your missions right after awakening.
Light: So you're the warriors of Chaos?
Garland: Waiting until we make the first move... It seems there is a bunch of cowards on the Harmony side.
Emperor: That's the "chosen warriors" for you... Garland, you take care of these vermins. Feel free to summon me if you need help. I, the Emperor, will lend you a hand.
WoL: Lightning, the enemy is not alone. I'll take care of them, and you stay back...
Light: Sorry, but i'm not going to obey. You stay back, and I'll take care of this.
WoL: What...
Garland: Pitiful Cosmos warriors, can't even fight together... Whichever of you is ready, fight me!
*Battle ensues*
Garland: Ha! Was that all you've got? I wanted to enjoy the fight some more. But we will surely meet again, because the battle has just begun.
WoL: Disappeared... But there are still other enemies ahead. Let's go, Lightning.

Kefka: Hwa-ha-ha-ha! Found ya! My lovely newly-awakened warriors!
Light: Wha... Who is this guy!?
Kefka: Oh, lady Ultimecia, you don't have to get your hands dirty. I'll take care of them all by myself.
Ultimecia: You can do as you please, Kefka. It's a nice chance for me to get some rest. But do call me when you get to the pain-inflicting part. I'll gladly join in.
*Another battle*
Kefka: That huuuurt!
WoL: Lightning, are you alright?
Light: You'd better worry about yourself. The enemies still seem to be around.

WoL: This feeling...
Light: Another one is here, it seems.
Sephiroth: Oh, you've noticed me... Not bad at all.
Light: Who're you... looks like a stupid thing to ask. If you want to fight, I'll be your opponent.
CoD: You seem to be enjoying this, Sephiroth. Did you get ahold of some nice prey?
Sephiroth: You're Cloud of Darkness, right? Don't interfere. It was me who found them. But I have some interest in your power, so lend it to me for a bit.
*Battle yet again*
Sephiroth: That couldn't possibly be your best, right? Try to aim for my life seriously next time. Because otherwise there is no meaning for us to exist in this world.
WoL: I can still feel the enemy presence. Don't let your guard down, Lightning.
Light: You don't need to remind me.

Light: The enemy is near... Be careful. Hey, show yourself!
Cloud: You're being attacked, shouldn't you stay closer to the Sanctuary? If the Goddess of Harmony is defeated, your existence will be erased.
Light: I don't need concern from the enemy. Mind your own business.
Golbez: It's quite unusual to see you concerned, Cloud. Did some enemy pique your interest?
Cloud: It's none of your business. If you came to help, then shut up and fight, Golbez.
*Insert battle here*
Golbez: They've just awakened, no wonder they're like that. It was a nice warm-up. I'll take my leave now.
Cloud: You've fought other guys, haven't you? They haven't shown their true power yet as well. You'll get in trouble, if you underestimate them. And... your comrades...
Light: What's with our comrades?
Cloud: No, it's nothing. The real battle is still ahead. You better be ready.
WoL: Finally the Chaos presence disappeared. It seems we managed to drive them away.

WoL: You really helped me a lot. I'm grateful.
Light: No need. You would have defeated them even without my help.
WoL: I could fight so well because you were covering my back. But we can't always depend on each other. I want you to fight without letting your guard down. All of us have strong will. Battles will lead us to victory. Don't forget that. It seems enemies are still somewhere around. I will go check the surroundings. You wait for Kain and Jecht here.
Light: Don't just go deciding...
WoL: We may have to fight again soon, so you'd better to get some rest.
Jecht: Dunno if he's concerned or just fencing off. Guess, it's just the way he is.
Light: Jecht, Kain, are you alright?
Kain: Have you grasped anything?
Light: He's acting all heroic as always, but... His power is not all words.
Kain: So that means you've acknowledged him more or less.
Light: Heh, we'll see about that. I don't think we can get along well. But I got to see your strength. So for once you have my thanks for that suggestion.
Kain: I just wanted to know, how strong and skilled you guys are.
Jecht: I hope you're not disappointed?
Kain: If I was, I wouldn't be standing here.

*Cid's narration*
The endless cycle binding this world has slowly begun to come apart. The story, heading to demise, is faintly changing its form. Overcoming the will of those who control gods, the new opinion begins to weave itself into the world.

 

@cái gì đấy :devil: đừng tưởng Boss này dễ ăn nhé :devil: sau một thời gian tập luyện tại quê hương của DFF, đồng thời nghiên cứu kĩ các vid của đối phương, Tonny đã gian tà hơn trước rất nhiều rồi :devil:
@đọc narration, thấy Lightning kiêu ghê gớm

 

cho mình hỏi cái vụ assist, mình tự chỉnh hay là mặc định vậy

Cloud, Tidus bản này phe Chaos mà sao artwork vẫn hướng về bên trái nhỉ

 

-Anh em vào đây xem cho zui zui nè: http://dissidiaforums.com/showthread.php?7182-Your-epic-assist-combos-(guesswork)
-Một số cái tiêu biểu:
Guard Dog
Main character: Exdeath
Assist: Emperor
Combo: Call Emperor to start a Starfall, and protect him with your awesome Exdeath defensive skills until Starfall is complete!

1000 needles
Main character: Ultimecia
Assist: Laguna
Combo: Start with Ultimecia's "spike machine-gun" attack (don't know the name). Right before it ends, call Laguna to use his machine gun, and when he's ending, chain right into your charged spike machine gun again. Then sumon cactuar for a laugh.

Left or Right?
Main character: Golbez/Sephiroth/Ultimecia
Assist: Emperor
Combo: Basically do Starfall and BlackFang/Heartless Angel/Time Crush at the same time as the Starfall assist! Your opponent will have to pick which one they'd rather prevent =P

Up And Down!
Main Character : Emperor
Assist : Squall / Cecil
Combo : Pre Set Red Flare above enemy. Block Enemy or simply trap them in a Lightning Crest then use Ground Light Crest to send them up into the Red Flare which will send them back down to you, use Lightning Crest again then use another Ground Light Crest to send the enemy up again, use Squall for Beat Fang or Cecil to send them back down to you AGAIN, then use Lightning Crest once more when they have been wall rushed. End with Red Flare for Wall Rush, or M Prison for distance to reset some traps.

N to Infinity
Main Character : Cloud of Darkness
Assist : Squall
Combo : While in EX mode, use Ground 3 to Anti Air then use Squall Assist to knock the enemy back down into another Ground 3 to Anti Air.

Sorceress Knight's Combo
Main Character : Edeamecia
Assist : Garland
Combo : Combo off of Charged Knight's arrow's extra hit stun, dash in and use Uncharged Knight's Blade into Garland Assist Bardiche, throw SP on wall rushed enemy.

Knight's Symphony
Main Character : Edeamecia
Assist : Kuja
Combo : Combo off of Charged Knight's arrow's extra hit stun, dash in and use uncharged Knight's Blade, while doing so, use Ultima Kuja assist to catch the enemy while hitting with Uncharged Knight's blade, when the enemy is caught by Ultima, use Charge Knight's Spear, Spear should cause the enemy to be hit UP, then hit back down into the Spears from the Ultima Orbs, if this works, they can be slammed between both the orbs and the spear before HP damage.

Rapid Growth
Main Character : Lightning
Assist : Kefka
Combo : Cast Thundaga then switch to MED and use Kefka assist, Thundaga and Kefka using, preferably Forsaken, should keep the enemy very busy while you heal yourself as much as possible.

Reset [Particle Beam]
Main Character : Cloud of Darkness
Assist : Warrior of Light
Combo : While in EX Mode -
Ground 3 > Wide Angle > Wall Rush >(Assist)Rising Buckler > Floor Rush > Ground 3 > Anti Air Particle Beam

Calamity Fair
Main Character : Kefka / Emperor
Assist : Kefka / Emperor
Combo :
If Kefka : Release WWF's, and use forsaken, use Emperor Assist while your spells are active to give Emperor time to cast Starfall, WWF's should keep the enemy on the run, while the MUCH faster Forsaken will track the enemy down quickly. Once Emperor release Starfall, dash to enemy and use WWF's while they get wall rushed, hopefully you can get one to connect and follow up with something nice, maybe Havoc Wing?

If Emperor : Spam aerial mines then after putting out a blue and red flare, M prisons won't hurt either. Use Kefka assist as Forsaken and begin casting Starfall, if you don't hit with Starfall, this will at least cause your enemy to have to come into your trap laid area.

Void Tempest [Particle Beam]
Main Character : Cloud of Darkness
Assist : Zidane
Combo : While in EX Mode -
Ground 3 > Anti Air > (Assist)Tempest > Dash To Enemy during Tempest > O Form Particle Beam
Iffy about that, O form may be too slow

Tempest Shield
A dual HP attack with the ultimate finish
Main: Warrior of Light
Assist: Lightning
Combo: Ascension OR Crossover>[ASSIST]Thunderfall(HPatk)>Floor Rush>Ultimate Shield**
**this can actually be replaced by anything, i just like Ultimate Shield :3

Ping Pong of Steel
a friendly ping pong match between you and Garland :3
Main: Lightning
Assist: Garland [you MUST have a full assist bar to pull this off]

Ping Pong of Steel
A friendly ping pong match between you and Garland :3
Main: Lightning
Assist: Garland [you MUST have a full assist bar to pull this off]
Combo: Ruinaga>[ASSIST]Bardiche(BVatk)>Floor Rush>Ruinaga>[ASSIST]Bardiche(BVatk)>Floor Rush>Launch>Florish of Steel

Spartan Phalanx
Main Character: Exdeath
Assist: Kain
Combo: Block your enemies with Exdeath's guards and combine your follow-up counter with Kain's Gungnir to blow them across the
stage!

Radiant Barrage
Main: Lightning
Assist: Warrior of Light
Combo: Call Warrior of Light to use Radiant Sword! Follow his lead and use Razor Gale to catch the enemy in their dodge! Can they avoid them all?

Dreamer's Detonation
Main character: Kefka
Assist character: (nearly) any
Combo: Start with hyperdrive as soon as the opponent is fairly close to you. When he tries to attack you, to run away, or simple stays idle for 5 seconds, call out your assist (L+O).
As soon as your opponent dodges, Blocks, or gets hit by the assist, he'll suffer a huge explosion =D.
(This attack wíll ALWAYS work, it only requires you to time the assist summon well......)

@alucard92:The player can set the Assist (and their costume) they bring with them in the same way they select their equipment from the Customize Menu. However, it is not possible to set what attacks they do.(It is likely that during Story Mode play, the available Assists will be preselected characters, possibly ones that have relevance to the player character's story)-Phần trong ngoặc đơn là ko chắc,ko confirm.Còn demo thì ko bàn cãi,nó mặc định
(Nguồn:http://dissidiaforums.com/showthrea...a-012-duodecim-Final-Fantasy-Mechanics-Digest)